http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/ Meet fellow forum members, find a common ground. Introduce new people to responsible firearm ownership. Posts must be related to firearms. en Tue, 21 May 2013 07:34:40 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/images/misc/rss.png http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/ http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426601-Common-Sense-Discussion-Of-Firearms-Safety&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 21:34:37 GMT It seems that whenever firearms safety is brought up here there are one or two people who engage in the logical fallacy of reducto ad absurdum that... It seems that whenever firearms safety is brought up here there are one or two people who engage in the logical fallacy of reducto ad absurdum that is to take an argument to extreme proportions and then attack the result. For instance When the four rules are mentioned I’ve seen people questioning whether the first rule (treat all weapons as loaded at all times) applies to a disassembled weapon on a cleaning bench or if rule two (Never let your weapon’s muzzle cover anything you aren’t willing to shoot) applies when all I have in my hand is the barrel while I’m swabbing it out.

When I see it, it annoys the Hell out of me because (to me) it’s obvious that the person is doing it just to get rise out of someone and it reduces the entire thread to a bickering contest and pisses people off which causes people to leave this forum for others where they can ask their questions without some yo yo jerking their chain for their own amusement.

Ultimately, your view on firearms safety is just that yours. I’m not obligated to agree with it and unless I’m shooting with you or handling your gun I’m not obligated to abide by it and then we should agree on the rules before we get to the range.

For me Cooper’s 4 rules work and I add a 5th that I never touch a weapon without visually inspecting the chamber to ensure that it is clear. I will not hand you a weapon unless the action is open and I will not take a weapon out of your hand unless the action is open.

Of course as with all rules there are common sense exceptions but even then my preference is to put the weapon down on the bench, state its condition clearly and then let you pick it up. When I finish cleaning my wife’s pistol I load it, chamber a round, holster it and return it to her by laying it on the night stand and stating “Your weapon is loaded, there is a round in the chamber and it is ready to fire.” And she picks it up.

So, without playing the word games can we discuss what safety rules work for you? ]]> General Gun Discussions Treo http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426601-Common-Sense-Discussion-Of-Firearms-Safety http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426593-What-is-a-gun-What-are-quot-arms-quot-What-does-the-Second-Amendment-protect&goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 17:12:04 GMT I've been following the news of 3D printed guns. I find this fascinating from an engineering perspective, a societal perspective, a legal perspective, and generally what this means for our future.

One question that has come to mind after reading a couple news articles is, how would we define a firearm now? What is a weapon? What role does the Second Amendment play in this on our access to this technology and the products from it?

One article I saw was on a poll of banning 3D printed guns, or even 3D printers.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/17/ma...d-ban-3d-print

The law in the past has stated the receiver is the firearm. The law also states that each firearm must have a unique serial number. My question is, at what point does that chunk of plastic become a firearm and therefore need a serial number? Might seem like a trivial matter but I can imagine someone setting up a machine to produce multiple receivers and drop them in a bucket, where the person would later come along to place serial numbers on each. What if this process was interrupted by a knock on the door by law enforcement?

The plans for the 3D printable pistol was taken down by order of the Department of State because there is a question over the legal status of exporting weapon plans. Is the electronic file considered a weapon now? Is the computer or storage device that holds the file a weapon as well? Does this mean my computer is a weapon and therefore protected by the Second Amendment just because it is capable of holding weapon plans?

This argument has gone on for some time, it's just that 3D printing has put a new spin on it. The 3D printing plans was taken down over ITAR, a law that has been applied to cryptography, computer processors, navigation systems, and more. ITAR covers international trade but the take down order from State means domestic trade has also been affected.

The Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms. What about the development, trade, and manufacture of arms?

I also realize that much of this is irrelevant. The government might try to regulate arms in the future but this technology makes that impossible. People are now able to make just about any weapon they want in their own home, with minimal expenditure, out of commonly available materials.

I guess my real question here is how can, would, or should, the government respond to this new technology? ]]> General Gun Discussions IA_farmboy http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426593-What-is-a-gun-What-are-quot-arms-quot-What-does-the-Second-Amendment-protect http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426588-Handing-A-Weapon-To-Another-Person-Did-I-miss-Something&goto=newpost Fri, 17 May 2013 18:37:22 GMT In another thread a member stated that they were trained to always “Is the safety on?’ if they were handed a weapon. I was always taught that you... In another thread a member stated that they were trained to always “Is the safety on?’ if they were handed a weapon.

I was always taught that you never hand a weapon to another person unless the bolt is locked to the rear and you have visually inspected the chamber to ensure it is clear.

Am I missing something? ]]> General Gun Discussions Treo http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426588-Handing-A-Weapon-To-Another-Person-Did-I-miss-Something http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426580-Shrinking-gun-ownership-a-myth&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 15:59:37 GMT *‘Waning gun culture’ in U.S. may be myth* A well-known firearms researcher punched a pinhole in what may be one of the biggest myths being... ‘Waning gun culture’ in U.S. may be myth

A well-known firearms researcher punched a pinhole in what may be one of the biggest myths being propagated by the gun prohibition lobby and repeated by the mainstream press when he noted today that the news media “ignore their own reports” that show gun ownership is increasing.

http://www.examiner.com/article/wani...id=db_articles ]]> General Gun Discussions Dave Workman http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426580-Shrinking-gun-ownership-a-myth http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426577-New-Insta-Sniper-Gun!&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 12:14:26 GMT OMG, the antis are all atwitter about their newest "Eek--a GUN!" story.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechcons.../Mark-Dewey-tk

The TrackingPoint Rifle, made by TrackingPoint Innovations, combines a laser ranging system, computer image tageting system, and assisted trigger: you pick your graphic impact point on the target, get the rifle roughly on target, pull the trigger--and the rifle "decides" to shoot when you've actually managed to put the muzzle on target! They've release a vid apparently showing novices hitting at 500 yards, first try.

Well, those of us who've tried long range target shooting (or varminting) are probably grinning a little--I doubt that this rifle can compensate for a bad or inconsistent hold. Still, if I had a new product, I'd market it as "magic", too (everyone remembers Der Freischütz, right?). "It's a miracle!" The spirit of Billy Mays is alive and well.

Interesting questions: should we make sure all police snipers are issued this gun? Heck, why train snipers--give all cops this gun, and they can shoot the gun out of the hand of the bad guy--just like on TV!

Some have already opined (of course) that this gun is "too dangerous" to be owned by "civilians"--but I think we should have the right to shoot the guns out of our attackers' hands, too! Can't wait for the pistol version!

(BTW, the antis are of course calling this a terrorist rifle, assassin's rifle, and claiming that no ethical hunter would ever use one.)

:rolleyes::evil::p;):D ]]> General Gun Discussions Loosedhorse http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?426577-New-Insta-Sniper-Gun!