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    Umm as of late I have become a militant leftist after I saw the racism and hatred of the rightwing during the tea parties without anybody complaining about it. And the lack of any semblance of an actual solution to the problems facing us. So please don't blame all leftists and label us all anti-gun because it would be simple to label the majority of the rightwing in a very negative light.

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    Oh and remember that one of the biggest anti-gunners was Reagan and he was a Republican. He destroyed the 2nd Amendment rights of the people of California and destroyed our right to own automatic weapons.

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    Umm as of late I have become a militant leftist after I saw the racism and hatred of the rightwing during the tea parties without anybody complaining about it.
    HUH?!?

    Are you on planet Earth?

    Or, are you one of those people who sees racialism where it does not exist?

    Maybe you meant to be sarcastic and I missed it.
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    Umm as of late I have become a militant leftist after I saw the racism and hatred of the rightwing during the tea parties without anybody complaining about it. And the lack of any semblance of an actual solution to the problems facing us. So please don't blame all leftists and label us all anti-gun because it would be simple to label the majority of the rightwing in a very negative light.
    We must have gone to different tea parties because what you are describing is very different from what I saw.
    I repeat - some people are just itching to get their panties in a wad about something. And this is why I normally stay out of Legal. <sigh>
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    I seem to remember quite a few of the news casts pointing out the racism that was blatant there. I was told that health care is reparations for the black folks, that Obama is an African and should go back there, and I remember quite a few pictures insinuating that he was a Kenyan. I also remember some witch doctor parodies of the government as well as people trying to use religion to threaten the president with some silly biblical verse.

    No Sheik Yerbouti no sarcasm. Just disgust that the GOP has betrayed its values and let racism as well as blind hatred for anybody who has a different opinion take over the party. I cannot condone that.

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    I seem to remember quite a few of the news casts pointing out the racism that was blatant there. I was told that health care is reparations for the black folks, that Obama is an African and should go back there, and I remember quite a few pictures insinuating that he was a Kenyan. I also remember some witch doctor parodies of the government as well as people trying to use religion to threaten the president with some silly biblical verse.
    Gee that's funny. I didn't see any of that. Are you sure you were there, or were you watching MSNBC?

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    While I agree that the GOP has betrayed it's principles and will not argue the point, I think racialism (a more correct term than racism) is a stretch.

    First of all, insinuating Obama is a Kenyan is definitely not racialist, as the constitution is abundantly clear about the qualifications for the office of president, and to this day, there has been no unequivocal proof that Obama is not Kenyan, or any other nationality including American.

    Secondly, political parodies go with the territory. Just because someone decides to refer to Obama's obvious African connection does not imply racialism as much as it does Third Worldism, non/anti-Americanism or lack of loyalty (which now there is evidence to support with all the 'apologies'). Plus, there has not been a President, speaker of the House, or Supreme Court justice that hasn't been threatened with a Bible verse since 1918, so you probably ought to get over that.

    Thirdly, you are assigning motives. That is a very judgmental thing to do. By your own criteria, I could say that you are bringing up an old thread and throwing down the race card just to stir up crap. That's probably not what you actually are doing, but for many people who have not read any of your previous posts, it probably looks like that. They would assign that motive to you because they don't look past the surface. Maybe you need to look past the surface.

    A couple of other things:

    1. Black people are black.
    2. Africans are Africans.
    3. Many, but not all, Africans are black.
    4. Referring to these facts, or even pointing them out specifically, is not in and of itself racialism.
    5. Liberals and Democrats are no more, nor, no less racialist than conservatives or Republicans.
    6. Today in America, black people tend to be just as racialist as any other ethnic group.
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    Darnit, double post
    Last edited by Nitrogen; January 25th, 2010 at 04:05 AM. Reason: whoops, dupe
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    Nothing you can do to convince democrats?

    Male Bovine Excrement.

    It sounds like you've ever never tried, or were a complete donkey's butt about it.

    I've converted quite a few in the last 5 years or so, including hard core hippies and other "hard core leftists"

    All it takes is viewing Democrats and other "leftists" with respect, and as actual people with brains, which many people refuse to even try and do

    In other words, yes, It's impossible to change someone's mind when you treat them like chattel or assume they are complete morons. Drop that tactic and you'll have a lot better luck, I guarantee it.
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    the racism and hatred of the rightwing during the tea parties without anybody complaining about it

    Did you actually attend a tea party or did you see them as reported by the MSM?

    I attended a couple of teaparty protests and saw no racism (there were blacks present too). I saw a lot of anger at overbearing government, which does not equal to hatred unless you love Big Brother. Some of the people were left of me quite frankly.
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    I read about a study that tested people's emotions and political identification. Folks who self identify as liberal or progressive are more likely to get angry, stay angry and plot revenge against people they get angry at than folks who self identify as conservative or libertarian. It's all about feelings and emotion.
    I would love to read that. Do you have a link?
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    Never been on it, never want to go there. But according to wiki:

    Democratic Underground, also known as DU, is an online community for US Democrats and other progressives. Its membership is restricted by policy to those who are generally supportive of progressive ideals and support Democratic candidates for political office.[1] DU was established on January 20, 2001, the day George W. Bush was inaugurated President.
    So I guess if you go there you can't really bellyache about being censored, pilloried, and razzed.

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    I go to DU and Huffington's puffingtons once in a while just to see what the enemy is ranting about today...

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    Originally posted by csmkersh:
    I go to DU and Huffington's puffingtons once in a while just to see what the enemy is ranting about today...
    So you consider US citizens your enemy? Perhaps a little call to the DHS is in order so they can put you on a list as a potential threat to the US and its citizens?

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    So you consider US citizens your enemy?
    Philosophically? Yes, when it comes to collectivists and leftists.

    Perhaps a little call to the DHS is in order so they can put you on a list as a potential threat to the US and its citizens?
    Be very careful with that one. That sword cuts both ways. Someone with an axe to grind can make just about anyone's life miserable, even yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autolycus
    So you consider US citizens your enemy? Perhaps a little call to the DHS is in order so they can put you on a list as a potential threat to the US and its citizens?
    So, you consider left wing, pro-socialist people to be good Americans with only the interest of the Country at heart no matter what they have to do to the Constitution to achieve their ends? If that's the case, then that would make you a potential threat to the country, not me.

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    Wait, so a few people go to a Tea Party and spout some maybe racial crap and we are all labeled under that? And then you want us to not lump you as a gun hating libtard?

    Now I see the problem.

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    I wish we could have more political parties. The Democrats AND Republicans basically have a monopoly on American politics. Sometimes I like something besides chocolate or vanilla.

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    American Politics: where people who should be old enough to understand geometry foolishly try to make a multi-dimensional world two-dimensional.....
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    Here's a short video showing how MSNBC likes to 'make' the news.:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBQDHqdCck

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    The extreme left wants the tea party destroyed. The extreme right wants to co-opt it.

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    DU has recently changed its polocy on personal and/or general attacks on posters. Iveglas no longer posts on the guns forum and several posters have radicly changed their ways, as they were being deleated at a far higher rate.

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    There are actually quite a few members here that post in the "gungeon" at DU and there are also quite few very pro gun libs over there (along W/ your occasional idiot who thinks every one should have a gun but they should all be registered). iverglass shows up every so often but she is routinely ignored
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    ZeSpectre:
    I had never gone to DU before...

    I think my eyes may still be bleeding.
    I just made my first and last excursion to that place.
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    Oneshooter said:
    DU has recently changed its polocy on personal and/or general attacks on posters. Iveglas no longer posts on the guns forum and several posters have radicly changed their ways, as they were being deleated at a far higher rate.
    No way - IVERGLAS got reined in???

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    I have found that a lot of people with anti-gun attitudes suffer more from ignorance of firearms than from actual malice towards gun owners. This suggests that dispelling that ignorance may nudge them towards a pro-RKBA position. And remember that most people simply think with their feelers. I would NOT suggest giving them a copy of "More Guns, Less Crime."

    Step 1: I send them to my absolute favorite pro-RKBA site is a-human-right.com.

    Step 2: I offer to take them shooting at the range.

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