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    An FA-18 is a weapon, right? So this is the Forum for it?

    "INTERCEPTED MESSAGE"
    Subject: Invitation given to Iran
    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:51:23 +0000
    &n`sp; In addition to communicating with the Air Traffic Control
    facility, all aircraft in the Persian Gulf AOR are required to give the Iranian Air Defense Radar (military) a ten minute 'heads up' if they will be transiting Iranian airspace. Such is common procedure for commercial aircraft and involves giving the call sign, transponder code, type aircraft, and points of origin and destination.
    I just flew with a guy who overheard this conversation on the VHF Guard (emergency) frequency 121.5 MHz while flying from Europe to Dubai.
    It's too good not to pass along. The conversation went something like this...


    Air Defense Radar: 'Unknown aircraft at (location with-held), you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'
    Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'
    Air Defense Radar: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'
    Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em on up, I'll wait!'
    Air Defense Radar: (no response ... total silence)

    ((Relayed from SRB, MSgt, USAFR. NCOIC Intelligence (location with-held)
    Last edited by ZAKHVAT; November 28th, 2008 at 11:41 AM. Reason: Paragraph indent.

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    mmm I whish it was true.. but I suspect it the be the same kind of story of the aircraft carrier and the lighthouse... do you know it as well ?

    This is based on an actual radio conversation between a U.S. Navy
    aircraft carrier (U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln) and Canadian authorities
    off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. (The radio
    conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on
    10/10/95 authorized by the Freedom of Information Act.)
    Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South to
    avoid collision.

    Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the
    North to avoid a collision.

    Canadians: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15
    degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

    Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again,
    divert YOUR course.

    Canadians: No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.

    Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND
    LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE
    ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS
    SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES
    NORTH--I SAY AGAIN, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH--OR
    COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.

    Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.


    Oh, and btw.. never mind the so called "Interceptor aircrafs".. Even a Marines Hornet doesnt want to mess with a S-300 SAM..
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    Not to say it wasn't funny but...

    I'm with Shung on this one, I was deployed to Uum Qsar and there was an IAD(Iranian Air Defense) site just across the border from us at Al Faw. We'd hear them on the radio and they had very standardized queries/responses. We were only 20 miles or so from the border and our Helos would get queried almost every time they took off.

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    and Iran has obviously outdated airplanes, but do not forget that before Khomeni took power, they had with the Shah, a very "american" approach of air combat.. And their pilots have been well trained during the Iran-Iraq war..

    Of course, a single hornet pilot won't get any trouble if he can engage in BVR, but in a 1 vs 1 dogfight scenario, a simple F-5E that managed to snake i, could bring him a lot of troubles.. even more with an old skilled veteran handling the stick..
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    I think its foo foo juice but still funny and now my belly hurts.
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    Technically, thats a non-firearm weapon
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    well.. A Hornet still has a Vulcan in the nose
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    An F-18 is not a weapon, at least as far as the ATF is concerned. The FAA considers it just another jet plane for the most part. The DoD though will not let you buy one for a few more years, they ban private sales of currently active war plane models. If you want one then you'll have to wait until the F35B goes active in 2012. Probably less paperwork to get an F-18 than a revolver in NYC, Chicago, D.C., or LA.
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    My friend's dad, who works at a aircraft repair company at a regional airport, had a guy come in with a MiG he'd bought from the Ruskies. The guy was some kinda rich. He was apparently having issues with his radio, as everything he heard was in Russian.
    The worst things happen at the most critical times, and it's these moments that YOU need to be flawless, not the gun.

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