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Thread: Webley MK IV .38/200 ammo.

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    Webley MK IV .38/200 ammo.

    I have a friend who just inherited a Webley MK IV, in .38/200.
    I know that it is chambered for .38 S&W.
    The revolver is in very good condition, it had been stored in a cloth bag for decades. And my friend wants to shoot it.
    I know that there is commercial .38 S&W ammo available, but I can't find any in 200 gr LRN.
    My research says the Webley was designed and shoots best with the 200gr LRN bullet.
    Does anyone know of any company that makes .38/200 ammo?
    Thanks.
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    I use Winchester 145 grain lead .38 S&W in my webley MK4 and can manage 1.5 inch groups at ten meters with it, which is pretty reasonable for a sixty seven year old milsurp.

    Old Western Scrounger lists their own 38-200 load: http://www.ows-ammo.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id/1113
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    The British military actually used a 179 gr full jacketed bullet for the Webley, not 200gr lead. The police and para military used the 200 lead but not the military

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    I still run into FN produced "Revolver, .380 IIz" ammunition at gunshows, usually 25 rounds in a plastic pack, it has a 174gr FMJ bullet (pulled and weighed a couple) and is berdan primed. I believe this was the standard service load adopted prior to WWII and used after.

    You can get a set of Lee dies for the .38 S&W cheaper than a box of new factory ammo, and I've had luck shooting .357 sized bullets thru my Webley and Enfield, especially the Horandy 148 gr HBWC. I know reloading isn't for everyone, but it often makes sense with many calibers, at least for me.

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    The 38 s/w ammo shot horribly through mine.
    It's very slow, poor in terms of accuracy, and it's a tad pricey.

    Reloading turned my little Webley into a great woods gun.

    I love old Webleys. The one I had was tattooed like a hardcore kid with proof marks and all kind of stuff and had the worst wartime blue ever.
    And, the break action was the coolest thing.
    I liked it a lot.

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    The 200 Grain Lead Bullet is in violation of some sort of agreement in that only jacketed bullets or something like that would be used. I think it's the Hague convention of 1898 or something.
    Move along move along. Nothing to see here.

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    Reloading would of course be cheapest, .38/200 is a 200-grain bullet shoved down the front of a .38 S&W case. So .38 S&W will work as well, though being chambered for a heavier bullet, the gun may shoot high. Good luck finding either round in a gun store though; the clerks in every place I've recently visited just looked at me and shook their heads..

    Internet to the rescue!

    Midway has .38S&W in several bullet types, including LRN:
    http://www.midwayusa.com/BROWSE/Brow...g=653***691***

    Old Western Scrounger also sells new manufacture .38/200:
    http://www.ows-ammo.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id/1113

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    I just laid a Enfield Revolver away yesterday and they didn't know it was a 38/200 they had it marked as a 38 Spl. I told them it could use 38 S&W but no way it could chamber even a 38 Long

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