Open carry is the 2nd Amendment

[JohnPierce]

During the interview, the anchor asked me the question “What do you say to those 2nd Amendment supporters who oppose open carry?” I have been asked this question before and had always answered it by talking about the political and public policy benefits of open carry. However, it suddenly occurred to me that the question, as asked, made absolutely no sense ...

The full article is at ...

http://tinyurl.com/bvnrr5

[Standing Wolf]

...when 2nd Amendment supporters attack open carry as detrimental to the concealed carry movement, they are advocating sacrificing a right for a privilege.
Is that a deal we are really ready to make?

Hmmm!

Concealed carry as it's currently controlled in most states is, indeed, a privilege rather than a right, and an expensive privilege in more than a few. That said™, I think we ought to concentrate upon "bear arms" rather than the way arms are borne. How they're borne, it seems to me, matters far less than whether they're borne.

I hope that's a helpful thought.

[Harve Curry]

It should be obvious to all that any way you can carry is the 2nd Amendment.

[Johnny Dollar]

Lets print this out:

Open carry is the 2nd Amendment

February 22, 3:40 PM
by John Pierce, Minneapolis Gun Rights Examiner
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Recently, I was doing an interview with an NBC affiliate in Texas regarding the initiative to decriminalize open carry in that supposedly gun-friendly state. I was discussing the fact that, despite Texas’ nationwide reputation as a bastion of rugged individualism, they are in fact, out of line with the vast majority of states where individual gun rights are concerned.

During the interview, the anchor asked me the question “What do you say to those 2nd Amendment supporters who oppose open carry?” I have been asked this question before and had always answered it by talking about the political and public policy benefits of open carry. However, it suddenly occurred to me that the question, as asked, made absolutely no sense. My answer, paraphrased for brevity, was “If you are a 2nd Amendment supporter then you are, by definition, a supporter of open carry because open carry is the right that the 2nd Amendment is enumerating!”

I then went on to discuss the history of carry in the United States and the fact that while today, concealed carry is seen by much of the populace as synonymous with the right-to-carry, it is not, in fact, a right in most states (residents of Vermont may pat themselves on the back at this point). Rather, in the vast majority of states, concealed carry is held to be a state regulated privilege and this was affirmed by the majority opinion in the landmark 2008 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller.

Additionally, the constitutions of several states bear out this historical view of the dichotomy between the right of open carry and the privilege of concealed carry.

New Mexico
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.

Montana & Colorado
The right of any person to keep and bear arms in defense of his own home, person, and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.

Idaho
The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged; but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to govern the carrying of weapons concealed on the person …

Louisiana
The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.

Mississippi
The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in the aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons.

Missouri
That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.

Kentucky
All men are, by nature, free and equal, and have certain inherent and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned: First: The right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties. Seventh: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.

North Carolina
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.

Now at this point, I should rush to point out that I am an avid supporter of concealed carry laws and am not in any way downplaying their public policy benefits. The concealed carry movement that has swept the nation over the last two decades has done more to prevent crime and empower law-abiding citizens than any other public policy movement in my lifetime. But this does not change the fact that the founding fathers bore their arms openly and proudly and wrote the 2nd Amendment in that context.

Therefore, when 2nd Amendment supporters attack open carry as detrimental to the concealed carry movement, they are advocating sacrificing a right for a privilege.

Is that a deal we are really ready to make?

[TallPine]

Is that a deal we are really ready to make?

Not me.

[Aguila Blanca]

That's an excellent summary of the situation and, no, that is not a deal I am willing to make.

I wonder how many "concealed carry is for good guys / open carry is for Rambos" types are even slightly aware that way back when, gentlemen and honest men carried their arms openly and proudly, and only sneaks and low-lifes resorted to hiding their weapons under their clothing.

[Titan6]

I prefer to live in a society where open carry is not needed. But it should always be a right.

[Harve Curry]

quote from article: " But this does not change the fact that the founding fathers bore their arms openly and proudly and wrote the 2nd Amendment in that context."

JohnnyDollar,
I cannot agree with that and find fault with it because of "openly and proudly "part. People haven't changed only technology. Back in the days of flintlocks it was even more important to keep a belt pistol out of the weather and probably were under mens coats and vests. Boot pistols/knives were around then, making arms smaller was always an endeaver. It would be interesting to read any historical reference to this topic.

The 2nd Amendment recognizes that the RKBA exists and existed since time imortal. The words "shall not be infringed" are plain language then as today. Those words encompass carrying arms concealed or open, period.

It will be interesting to see what the long haul brings us on the the deal with Concealed Carry Weapons Permits.

[JesseL]

I prefer to live in a society where open carry is not needed. But it should always be a right.

The surest way to see that it isn't needed is for it to be commonly practiced.

[Johnny Dollar]

JohnnyDollar,
I cannot agree with that and find fault with it because of "openly and proudly "part.

Harve,you are mistaking me for someone else.
I did not comment on John Pierce's article.I just printed it out so everyone could read it.
Mr.Pierce himself made the 'openly and proudly' comment.

[Harve Curry]

JohnnyDollar,
Sorry. I meant the article.
I'll try to be more clear, I'm not a typer and often I am short on time and try to get a reply out.
best regards,

[Johnny Dollar]

Bill,I understand.
Best regards back.
Johnny