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    Appleseed Project makes the NY Times!

    The NYT printed an article tonight on the Appleseed Project. Coverage was about what you would expect although the video was actually better than the written story.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/ma...ed-t.html?_r=1

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    Well written article, and interesting. HOWEVER, he is making too many "militia" connections where there are none. Most of the article focuses on what "Fred" calls "The Dark Side."
    Any publicity is good publicity?

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    If you read the comments, "any publicity is good publicity" appears not to be the case. I found the entire article extremely biased, though unlike most hatchet jobs, very subtly done in many regards. Still, an entirely negative portrayal.

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    I like his little snide digs he keeps throwing in, like
    Dailey, Appleseed’s founder and rhetorician in chief,
    Rhetorican? That has a bad connotation. Like chief bull@#$%er

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    The Appleseed Project has definitely hit the main stream! We are very excited to see that the New York Times has published an in-depth, six page feature on our all-volunteer Marksmanship and Heritage program.

    Unfortunately, there are several mis-characterizations in that article that The Appleseed Project wishes to address. It appears as if we were unfairly portrayed by a Mainstream Media outlet using subtle innuendo, outright falsehoods, and everything in between to label us as something we are not, as has happened with many pro-Liberty organizations in recent times.

    Please read our official response to the New York Times below and we invite you to help us educate anyone and everyone with these corrections.


    Dear Sirs:

    It is with some sadness and disappointment that we at the Appleseed Project read the New York Times article this evening. When the NYT originally asked us to host their media team in order to better understand what we do, we welcomed them. When they wanted access to our students, programs, and instructors, we acquiesced without hesitation.

    We did so because we have nothing to hide and no secrets in our program. There is no reason whatsoever to restrict or fear an open and honest press.

    We spoke with happiness and excitement about the stellar growth of our program over the last four years and our mission to bring every American to a greater sense of responsibility for our nation and to live out that feeling through civic involvement.

    Frankly, we opened ourselves up and said our piece in trust that it would be conveyed by the press to its readers.

    Sadly, today's article is not about us. It is not about the Appleseed Project. It is about militias and about anecdotal gun owners who are not members of our program. The constant focus on the militia movement, the Tea Party, and Mr. Faire are at the center of this article and as a result this article is not about us, since those things are not, and never have been the Appleseed Project.

    Frankly, there are among us those who feel that we have been poorly described and treated in this article, and I will return to that point in a moment.

    The real tragedy here, however, is a complete failure of the press to see the real story: Why does Appleseed double every year? Why are people of all races, genders and ideological affiliations drawn to the Appleseed Project? What is going on here?

    In its rush to cover the desired story, that is, scary militia groups, the NYT simply misses what is really important. Therein lies its disservice to both its readers and our program.

    Now, with respect to specific themes in the article that we feel incorrectly describe the Appleseed Project, let us simply address each in turn:

    Inaccuracy #1: Appleseed is Militia

    Appleseed is not a militia or interested in militia training. Appleseed teaches only in individual marksmanship skills and the history of April 19th, 1775. Appleseed does not provide training in military tactics or unit operations. Rather, Appleseed uses marksmanship as a way for modern Americans to reconnect with the Founders through a shared, traditional American skill. No more. No less. Appleseed does not see our government as an enemy or force of arms as a solution. Rather, our enemies are laziness, ignorance and apathy. Appleseed sees education and lived history as the means to get people to the real solution: Personal involvement in civic processes to ensure a better future for our nation. Our ancestors fought so that we would not have to; all we have to do is get off our couches and get involved.

    Where militias offer a dark haven for people with concerns about an unwelcome future, Appleseed offers reason for hope and sees bright, happy days ahead. That is the real reason we are not a militia nor associated with any such like-thinking group.

    Inaccuracy #2: Appleseed is White (and thus Racist in some fashion by extension)

    Appleseed is filled with students and instructors of all races, creeds, genders, and identities. We make no distinction for color, religion, sexual preference, political beliefs or any other discriminatory category. Our program is comprised at all levels of all Americans, and we explicitly urge all Americans to come. We have no patience for those who would take this great nation and divide it up by race, or who would single out someone else for ridicule or derision. There is no place in our cadre, among our students, or at our events for those who would put petty distinctions above unity and our joint past and future.

    Inaccuracy #3: Appleseed is Anti-Government, Anti-Military, Anti-Law Enforcement

    Appleseed is not anti-government, anti-military, or anti-law enforcement. Among our volunteers are people who work in law enforcement, the military, the government and nearly every civilian trade. We teach students who work in law enforcement, the military, the government, and any civilian occupation precisely because we are all Americans and inheritors of the same heritage and history. And together we must make our joint future.

    Appleseed has zero tolerance for anti-government, anti-military, or anti-law enforcement attitudes, comments or advocates. To the contrary, we offer free spots on our shooting lines for active duty military personnel and have been called onto military bases to teach troops deploying for overseas duty in combat theaters. Elected officials at any level of government are invited to participate in Appleseed without charge. Finally, it is our goal to get each and every participant involved in the body politic, which means we are always clear that we hold our government, the government given us by the Founders, in the highest regard.

    Soldiers, police officers, and government officials are not our enemies. They are our neighbors, friends, and protectors. At Appleseeds they are our honored guests.

    Inaccuracy #4: Appleseed is Right Wing


    Appleseed is a 501(c)3 not-for-profit organization with no interest in partisan politics. Appleseed volunteers and students come from all political parties, economic classes, and ideologies. We have no place for left wing, right wing, or any "wings" at all. Our program could not function that way, nor do we want it to.

    Our only interest in politics is with the political details that led to and followed from the events of April 19th, 1775. From our retelling of those events we find that students are often motivated to move into civic involvement themselves. We do not frame the prospective involvement of our students and look forward to the day when we see two Appleseed graduates from opposite sides of the political spectrum running against each other in a national election.

    Our goal is civic involvement across the ideological spectrum.

    Inaccuracy #5: Appleseed has a Secret Plan


    We wish we had a Secret Plan to get more people involved but we don't. There is no inner group, no special level, no wizard behind the curtain. There is only this: Our ancestors were left with two paths: submission or bloodshed. They chose the latter so that we could be left with a third path: citizenship and civic participation. To take this third path we must get off the couch, turn off the TV, and get involved in our communities. Those who would blather about a "choice" between submission and bloodshed in modern American do not understand what American was meant to be, or is.

    Civic participation is not our secret plan. It is our openly stated mission.

    In conclusion, it is my hope that the NYT and its readers continue their search for authentic information about the Appleseed Project so that they learn for themselves exactly what the Appleseed Project is, and what it seeks to create: a more active body politic. The current article is simply woefully lacking in that regard.

    If anyone has any interest in continuing this conversation or attending an event, please be sure to contact us through our website http://www.appleseedinfo.org or via our email info@appleseedinfo.org and we will be happy to meet you.

    We are open to all inquiries and harbor no ill-will toward the NYT or the author. We are certain that what lies behind this unfortunate description of our program is a deep-seated concern about firearms, marksmanship training and heritage programs. It is our stated mission to change that through the hard work of education and apparently we are right where we need to be.

    Thank you for your time, and thanks to your readership as well,


    The Appleseed Project
    National Branch
    "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." --Thomas Paine

    Learn how The Appleseed Project is supporting freedom.

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    I wish you the best in this endeavor. The Gray Lady of the New York Times is loath to admit mistakes, and will work overtime to cover up inaccuracies, so I doubt your letter will see light of day anywhere but here. Or, if they do, they will use thier right to edit to have you say, "Appleseed is...proud...to be right wing...militia types...who hate...are racist..." etc.
    An excellent episode of Babylon 5, the older TV show, really showed what a hatchet job can do with a reporter team coming abord the station, and given good info that was wildly twisted when aired.
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    I have a new cliche that applies. "You know you're over the target when you start taking the flak."
    I think their attempts to mis-characterize the program will backfire on them. Many many people might think "$70 for a weekend learning to shoot my 'Obama scare' rifle? I can put up with some racist right wing militia types." Then they will get there and meet nice, normal, rational people doing the same thing they are. That brings me back to my first cliche: Any publicity is good publicity.

    If you read the comments, "any publicity is good publicity" appears not to be the case.
    I just went back and read some of the comments. Some of them are pretty shocking. One guy got lots of "recommends" saying that the idea that we have a right to self defense with guns is "preposterous," and he believes that is where the argument is going.
    Lots of well spoken(typed?) supporters of the program also. I tried to "recommend" them but it gave me an error.

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    I just went back and read some of the comments. Some of them are pretty shocking. One guy got lots of "recommends" saying that the idea that we have a right to self defense with guns is "preposterous," and he believes that is where the argument is going.
    Lots of well spoken(typed?) supporters of the program also. I tried to "recommend" them but it gave me an error.
    If you noticed that gentleman's userid and location, he is from Illinois.

    Surprised by that, with that comment? Although it doesn't say, I suspect he's also likely in Chicago (at least Cook County).

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    The article lost me when it started talking about taxes and 16" bayonets.
    All the heritage and historically inaccurate nonsense of the highest order aside, the Appleseed program strikes me as a very good idea. Relatively low cost, any rifle, any calibre, safe, shooting training that's open to anybody is hard to beat.

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    I wonder if reporters ever have the grace and strength-of-character to wonder why their profession is held in such contempt? It really annoys me that people graciously and openly allow a reporter into their "house" - who then promptly piddles on the carpet to score a political point of some kind. No wonder people are turning away from MSM.

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    Inelegantly put, but succinct and to the point.

    I watched my own words get twisted on TV once years ago, so if a reporter ever asks me again, "Can you answer a few questions, " a simple "No", will come thier way.
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