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    The Juvenility of Gun Lovers and NRA Members

    You can pretty much tell the gun banners have completely run out of steam when this is the best they can present their arguments

    http://www.huntingtonnews.net/7150

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    HUNTINGton news.....

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    from the article:
    A skinny kid can down a muscular brute with just the pull of trigger.

    Isn’t this called self defense?


    This guy doesn’t understand the English of the 2nd, nor know English grammar, either.
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    No people should have to fear the will of their government; all governments should have to fear the will of their people.

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    What tyranny it would be if gun lovers had to treat guns for what they are: instruments to kill; and had to be restricted in their purchase, their concealment, their sale and all else with regards to guns. What tyranny it would be if the government confiscated every Saturday Night Special and every gun that was designed to kill people, to kill a multitude of them in a few seconds.

    It wouldn’t be tyranny to me and millions of others who don’t sleep with a handgun under their pillows but worry about some psychopathic nut who has the freedom to have an arsenal in his house, including the one from Norway who tired of killing with dum-dum bullets while waiting for the police to arrive to stop him.

    The 2nd Amendment reads so ambiguously that one cannot find in it solid evidence that the Founders meant for every America to be able to pack heat on his hip in the manner of the cowboys of the Wild West. It was anarchy in those days and it is becoming anarchy in these days. Even the Supreme Court was divided on the meaning of the 2ndAmendment.
    We got a real live (well, barely from his pic ) hoplophobe here. Perry's best days are a long ways behind him.If he ever had any.
    We even get the 'Wild West' again! Originality there.
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    It's interesting that he goes down the road of "guns give individuals a sense of power". Collectivists don't want the individual to feel empowered. Groups can have power, whether it is ethnic, class, workers, whatever, but individuals are a threat to the collective because if the individual is empowered, he doesn't need the collective.

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    Since some people have no sense of power except guns, it enrages them to have their freedom to have guns and to use them as they see fit---challenged.
    As citizen's; yes. This is our only real power.
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    As citizen's; yes. This is our only real power.
    Yes,the three boxes.Two are looking a tad weak right now.
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    ....Then, there are those who stand for their principles such as Martin Luther King and are gunned down by a juvenile who is of mature age but of juvenile development, for example, James Earl Ray.....
    According to those who knew him, MLK went armed for self-defense; although an advocate of civil disobedience, he was not a complete fool. Others in the civil rights movement, including Don B. Kates now noted as a pro-gun rights scholar, were armed in those days, including arms with a philosophy that reconciled pacifism with lawful self defense if necessary. An idea that a sanctimonious projectionist would have trouble wrapping his mind around.

    There is nothing new in this rant: it is typical of 1960s gun control rhetoric.

    ADDED: The Comments indicate the author may have thoroughly discredited his cause.
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    well in a way.........i am like a kid at Christmas when i get a new gun....

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    Oh, Mann . . .

    He got, what, two (2) favorable comments out of 64?

    And there were some really well written ones there worth stealing.

    I wonder what you do when you publish something to the public and immediately get back more than sixty rejection letters?




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    I wonder what you do when you publish something to the public and immediately get back more than sixty rejection letters?
    A true believer sees the two favorable as an overwhelming majority for they are convinced the rest wouldn't know the truth if their head was held tight and their nose was rubbed in it.

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    He got, what, two (2) favorable comments out of 64?
    Maybe, but I missed them. There was one lovely comment that pretended to agree but was dripping with sarcasm by "yahoo-S3YJDPIC7MDN7F43RFNPXPG5JQ."
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    One of the many cogent comments, from a "Jim Gallagher":

    Gun control is supported by four types of individuals, the weak (those unwilling to accept the responsibility for defending themselves and their families), the ignorant (those that have yet to understand the reality in which we live), the do-gooder (those that know what’s best for us) and the tyrants (those that would rule without fear of reprisal).
    "Gun control is not about public safety, crime reduction, or 'the children.' Gun control is about power. The people have it, and the government would rather they didn't." (An internet poster, not myself.)

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    And here's a full blog post expanding that cogent comment. Good reading.
    http://www.thateverymanbearmed.com/2...es-of-gun.html

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    I did have to laugh at this little ditty of his; The 2nd Amendment reads so ambiguously...

    Really? Personally, I've always thought the 2nd was pretty damn definitive-it's just folks like the writer who don't agree with it try to convince you it doesn't say what it says.
    It only becomes class warfare when the working class decides to fight back.
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    I agree, basic, I never saw any ambiguity whatsoever, who knew?
    If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous?

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    Maybe, but I missed them. There was one lovely comment that pretended to agree but was dripping with sarcasm by "yahoo-S3YJDPIC7MDN7F43RFNPXPG5JQ."
    Thank you...

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    KB: ...because if the individual is empowered, he doesn't need the collective.

    Couldn't agree more, Keith. JWTBLA.

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    Guns are toys of juveniles.
    Ha, ha, you can tell when the antis no longer even have ideas resembling a reasoned argument: they resort to name calling!

    They're getting desperate.
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    A skinny kid can down a muscular brute with just the pull of trigger.
    While that comment could keep a team of abnormal psychology specialists busy for YEARS, I think what he MEANT to say was:

    "When a woman has a gun, "no" REALLY means "no" and I don't like that!"

    It reminds me of the Englishman in usenet who once said to me that women shouldn't be allowed to carry guns because he was afraid that he'd be "mistaken for a rapist and shot". I asked him, "How is it that you act around women that you actually think you'd be 'mistaken' for a rapist?" I then told him, "Put down that butcher knife, pull up your pants and you'll be fine."
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    Apparently they have a clap-trap generator at Huntingdon News.

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    Well stated, KodiakBeer.

    And here's a full blog post expanding that cogent comment. Good reading.
    http://www.thateverymanbearmed.com/2...es-of-gun.html
    This fellow's commentary would be vastly helped if he'd take a third grade course in grammar and punctuation. Bleccchhh.

    As for Mr. Mann, it alarms me to read that decisions over criminal prosecutions and men's liberty rested at one time in such ignorant and incompetent hands.
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    They're getting desperate.
    Yes, I do believe they are getting desperate. After reading the article of nonsense I'm not even sure how to respond. I recall a saying that went something like, "arguing with a fool is like wrestling with a pig, all you do is end up dirty and the pig seems to enjoy it." This guy calling gun owners juvenile is a fool, and I don't want to wrestle with a pig.
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    In the evolution of Homo sapiens, the species for eons hunted to live. It was the only livelihood for thousands of years. It was man’s occupation and the better the hunter the more likely his race prospered. But the home place had a feast one week and a hunger the next. Women decided to do something about this worrisome feast and famine. So they gathered seeds and began to garden, to harvest and to preserve. The hunter is writ on the DNA of the male and the gardener is writ on the DNA of the female.
    Hey, at least he's not just bashing gun owners, he's bashing the entire male gender ... and anyone who hunts, even if it's with a bow.

    I wonder if Mann is a vegetarian? He does realize they don't surgically remove the meat from the cows, chickens, pigs, etc at the slaughterhouse?

    Hunting is more humane. The meat is organic and free range. It's more environmentally friendly. What's not to love?

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    As for Mr. Mann, it alarms me to read that decisions over criminal prosecutions and men's liberty rested at one time in such ignorant and incompetent hands.
    Agreed.Thankfully now those hands are feeble and unable to put together a coherent sentence,much less an argument.
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