Lee revised manual has a lot of new calibers & other good info.
Do not throw away your old Lee manual as some of the old standby powders have been replaced with newer powders.You may want to refer back to the old manual from time to time.
It looks like a winner---------------------
H
Can you compare some of the common calibers and powders between the two and see how badly the lawyers have gotten to it?
I gave up a long time ago trying to get max loads for my guns. These days
I an pretty well restricted to target shooting.
I have 12/14 reloading manuals--I write down all the data for a load I want to use---then pick one in the middle---that way I get many loadings out
of my brass.
I was into hunting for about 40 years & used factory loads most of the time.
It's been a fun ride & still is------------------
Hi Howard,
My late uncle used pour over manuals looking for the 'sweet load.' That magical amount that gave the most power with the best accuracy for the weapon of the moment. That load was never anywhere near the maximum.
To me, the joy of firearms, including reloading, is to be able to find that perfect mix of skill and equipment to put a little piece of metal through a small target at the extreme range of the equipment.
I can't really blame the lawyers for this kind of thing. When someone comes in their office they need a damn good reason not to take the case to avoid being brought up before the bar. Put the blame exactly where it belongs, on the shoulders of those individuals that revel in their own stupidity then cry that someone else is to blame for the results.see how badly the lawyers have gotten to it?
“Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed.”
- G. K. Chesterton
So who throws out their old reloading manuals, anyway?Do not throw away your old Lee manual as some of the old standby powders have been replaced with newer powders.You may want to refer back to the old manual from time to time.
"Whom have I in heaven but you
And beside you I desire nothing on earth." --PS 73
Most people don't throw away their old manual but sometimes they give them away to friends & family & later they wish they hadn't been so generous.
Guilty as charged....Most people don't throw away their old manual but sometimes they give them away to friends & family & later they wish they hadn't been so generous.
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
--George Washington
Hey folks,
I had every manual I ever bought going back to the 50s. This past spring we got hit by flooding, and I lost a lot of books, some of which were my reloading books. I still have all of my Lyman manuals, and they are the most valued to me.
Best wishes,
Dave Wile
Get them or put then on a cd.
I absolutely LOVE to blame lawyers, but our manuals are probably not lawyer fodder.
Ballistics lab techs cite two main reasons for reduced data in newer manuals.
First, current equipment measures data more carefully than before,
detecting and mapping multimodal curves much more precisely.
In fact, multimodal pressure peaks were hardly recognized just 20 years ago.
In many cases, the secondary peak occurs in the barrel, not in the chamber.
They were never considered in previous data.
In fact, previous data probably significantly under reported certain cartridge types.
Note 1: Secondary curves occur more commonly with lighter bullets
and slower powders (especial spherical) in guns with longer barrels,
but can occur in just about any combination of gun and component.
Note 2: Even though past data was published with slightly higher pressures,
it doesn't necessarily mean your gun will blow up using older manuals.
Accelerated wear and tear is the more common result at max pressure.
Especially with a powder that erodes the barrel just ahead of the chamber.
Second, today they use test barrels cut to absolute minimum SAAMI standard,
both bore/groove diameter and chamber length.
Both of these will produce higher pressures AND higher reported velocity.
(Explains why we seldom get the velocities they report.)
Nosler used to have a discussion of this on their web site FAQ
but they are revising the site and most of the FAQ is off line right now.
The Shot Show is coming up in a couple weeks.
Anyone going to the show?
Maybe you can report what the techs are up to these days.
I still use a lot of data from my old manuals--I have been using it for years--
I am not interested in using max loads for most rounds & if I do I keep a lookout for signs of high pressure. Can't see to beat a weapon to death for
practice--why do it??
H
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