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    With your bad knee you shouldn't be throwing anyone.

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    Paul47 brought up how the NRA cannot be trusted. I don't want to pick on him specifically since this seems to be mentioned many times by many different people. This is a general feeling among many so I'll comment on it generally.

    People need to recall where the NRA comes from and what it's primary functions are before making comments on how the NRA is not trustworthy politically and/or not doing enough politically. The NRA is a tax exempt organization so its leadership must tread very carefully when they make public comments on political matters. The NRA's daughter organizations, NRA-ILA and NRA-PVF, are not so encumbered but must still act in the best interest of it's parent organization's members.

    The NRA's primary mandates are that of competitions, training, and education. These are people that compete in rifle marksmanship and hunt. If you are looking for an organization that is concerned about pistol competitions then look toward IDPA. If you are looking for an organization that takes an absolute view on the Second Amendment then we have the SAF and GOA. The NRA is not going to spend its limited funds fighting every infraction on the Second Amendment since that could easily put its funds for things like hunter education classes, Camp Perry competitions, and firearm training programs at risk.

    It did not take me long to realize how SAF and NRA complement each other as each have their strengths and their own way of doing things. That is why I am a life member of both organizations.

    When it comes to people like Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Santorum, Beck, or even Larry the Cable Guy, speaking to the NRA they know that this is a crowd of politically active people. These are people that took the time and expense to go to see these people speak. I realize that just because a person like Romney speaks at an NRA event does not mean that each necessarily endorses every action of the other. Each saw a generally coincident purpose for both to agree to the speaking event. There may be certain topics that both are in violent disagreement over.

    What I saw was a candidate for Commander in Chief that wanted to get the support of as many people as possible. It makes sense to do so in a time and place where a large number of like minded and likely voters will appear. I'm not just speaking of Romney with this comment, Gingrich spoke in a manner that shows he feels he can still win the endorsement of the Republican party for President. Perhaps he feels he can win the VP spot. Both Perry and Santorum spoke in a way that shows they either understand that they cannot get the Republican endorsement for President or they no longer wish to get it.

    I got the impression that Perry is content with being the governor of Texas. I got the impression that the run for President is weighing heavily on Santorum and that he simply wishes to have more time with his family. I can't blame him. I offer prayers for the health and long life of Bella, I pray that she will one day be the oldest NRA member in attendance at an NRA annual meeting many decades from now.

    All the speakers at the NRA annual meeting gave a general comment on the poor state of the nation and the need to have a change in those elected to public office at every level. Again, this is just like minded people speaking to a group of like minded people. This does not necessarily say anything specific on the speakers, the organizer of the event, or the audience.

    There I go again, writing so much over so little.
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    There I go again, writing so much over so little.
    Right,another mild rant. But the cigar,Farmboy. Is Ferriss correct? Much more important than the NRA.

    Edit: Farmboy is gone it appears. No cigar or donut for me.

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    Never underestimate the ability of the Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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    Dave Workman wrote:
    ...don't be shy about leaving a comment below the column.
    Sorry, Dave, I tried. I went so far as to register with Examiner.com (and subscribed to your column,) but Facebook? Really?

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    Edit: Farmboy is gone it appears. No cigar or donut for me.
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    Sorry, Dave, I tried. I went so far as to register with Examiner.com (and subscribed to your column,) but Facebook? Really?
    Yup...some of us don't want to jump on every fad out there.
    Maybe it's me, but it appears quotes are getting light on a lot of sites that require Facebook, Twitter, etc.
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    Romney is an enemy of guns, an enemy possibly more dangerous than Obama. Romney is manipulative adn will say whatever he has to in order to get his agenda across. Obama is limited by his scruples in this regard.

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    Obama couldn't pick a scruple out of a police line up.

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    Obama is limited by his scruples in this regard.
    Now that's FUNNY!


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    I will not endorse or like Romney, but I will hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two weevils.
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    I have heard the following theory from some gun folks:
    1. They feel if they vote for Obama, members of the house will oppose any gun legislation simply because he's a democrat.
    2. They feel if they vote for Romney, he may put forth the same anti-gun legislation, but because he's a republican, house members will go along with it simply because he's of 'their' party.

    Hmmmmm.....
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    When they don't, it simply becomes a case of economic genocide.
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    A couple of folks spelled "screwples" wrong.
    Trouble is, these jerkwads can pass dumb, self-serving, agenda-driven stupid laws much faster than we can beat them down in the courts. And they're well aware of that.

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    Now that's FUNNY!


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    He isn't like Romney who changes his platform for every single crowd.
    Quite right. He is just the same Leninist,"Useful Idiot" shill ,for every single crowd.
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    Corona, please!
    Silly JD, you thought you'd get to pick your brand? I might have one in my $40 for 20 cigars "grab bag" that I bought online but I doubt it.
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    My bad!
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    Quite right. He is just the same Leninist,"Useful Idiot" shill ,for every single crowd.
    @ Johnny Dollar:

    I am a Socialist and Obama is not one of us, not even by the most wishful thinking of anyone of our alignment.
    A plus of Obama is that his goals and motives and principles are readily visible for all to see. Romney is horridly opaque, contradictory, and seems to want nothing but power. He believes in the banning of weapons which threaten Police. He and Obama are roughly equal on the gun issue, not that Romney will admit to it during the campaign, or when attention is focused on him.
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    I am a Socialist and Obama is not one of us, not even by the most wishful thinking of anyone of our alignment.
    A plus of Obama is that his goals and motives and principles are readily visible for all to see. Romney is horridly opaque, contradictory, and seems to want nothing but power. He believes in the banning of weapons which threaten Police. He and Obama are roughly equal on the gun issue, not that Romney will admit to it during the campaign, or when attention is focused on him.
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    A plus of Obama is that his goals and motives and principles are readily visible for all to see.
    I think that's pretty much true.

    Romney is horridly opaque, contradictory, and seems to want nothing but power.
    Well, you see, he is convinced he has the magic abilities to fix problems, so his power is good for you.

    The guy as a businessman has done turnarounds and flips most of his life. I have been involved in some of that myself, in a much smaller scale, and one of the things that you develop is a lot of faith in your own ability to figure out and fix problems.

    In business, where all that's at stake is money, that's just fine. Whoever hires me is betting on my ability, without knowing how I'll fix the problem. If I do good he wins. If I don't he fires me or I quit, and he's out my pay. He's betting on my track record and I have a good one.

    However, if we are hiring somebody to manage our freedom, as well as our money, well, we might want to know a little more, mightn't we?
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    I respect your opinions,Mort,ala Voltaire.
    Considering the only quote I remember from Voltaire is; "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." I would have to call that a cold shot.

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    Considering the only quote I remember from Voltaire is; "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." I would have to call that a cold shot.
    Did not Voltaire say or purportedly say this:

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...ire109645.html

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    "Let me write the songs of a nation, and I care not who writes its laws..."

    One of the quotes I often think of. Back to restringing a guitar.
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    Quote:
    Now that's FUNNY!


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    He isn't like Romney who changes his platform for every single crowd.
    No, he is not. He is a man that will say anything to please someone who he thinks might vote for him. He has no conscience and refuses to obey just & proper court orders. He tells falsehoods incessantly and "fiddles while Rome burns". We have an unemployment + under employment rate near 20% but Dear Leader plays golf, takes vacations and sends his 13 y.o. daughter to Mexico on Spring Break (with SS escort, of course!). He and his honey live life Large on our dime while our fellow countrymen suffer. To this day we do not know anything he wrote while President of Law Review, what his grades were at Harvard Law or even who his friends were or why his spouse was disbarred, let alone Who knew What and When did They know it about Fast & Furious.

    Scruples, indeed.

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