Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Iron Sky: political satire with Nazis...

  1. #1
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    12-17-09
    Location
    EEU
    Posts
    2,557

    Iron Sky: political satire with Nazis...

    Featuring Sarah Palin as US president. Shame they couldn't get her to play herself.. she has acting talent I believe.

    Watch this first (first 4 minutes of the film):

    January trailer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeIu1...eature=related

    Release official trailer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_In...eature=related
    [Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.]

  2. #2
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    12-29-02
    Location
    downstate from Mordor By The Lake.
    Posts
    4,433
    Just waiting for it to show up in the US.
    "Whom have I in heaven but you
    And beside you I desire nothing on earth." --PS 73

  3. #3
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    12-17-09
    Location
    EEU
    Posts
    2,557
    I would love to wait... but I can't.

    Wait to see it, I mean-
    [Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.]

  4. #4
    New Member  
    Join Date
    05-08-12
    Location
    Fly over country
    Posts
    6
    Space Nazis! Much worse than Illinois Nazis!

  5. #5
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    05-10-05
    Location
    Kingsport Tennessee
    Posts
    5,295
    Illinois Nazis can be defeated by the Blues Brothers but those Space Nazis remind me of Norma Spinrad's The Iron Dream -- ridiculously scary.

    Interesting side trip. -- The idea of European authors using American settings got me to researching Spaghetti westerns and I then came across the novels of German author Karl May published from the 1880s-1910 set in the American Old West, then the series of movies based on the novels or on the characters from the novels, fictional Apache chief Winnetou and his white blood brother Old Shatterhand. Karl May films were supposedly very popular in Central Europe. The spaghetti westerns were actually the last in a long line of Eurowesterns, romanticized treatments of American West myth created by European imaginations. Which apparently color European perceptions of America.




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_May
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Shatterhand
    Cogito me cogitare; ergo, cogito me esse.

  6. #6
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    12-17-09
    Location
    EEU
    Posts
    2,557
    Interesting side trip. -- The idea of European authors using American settings got me to researching Spaghetti westerns and I then came across the novels of German author Karl May published from the 1880s-1910 set in the American Old West, then the series of movies based on the novels or on the characters from the novels, fictional Apache chief Winnetou and his white blood brother Old Shatterhand.
    Both the films and the novels were hugely popular.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/tr...pagewanted=all

    A con man and Walter Mitty-like homebody who spent eight years in jail dreaming of Wild West adventures, May (the name is pronounced My) wrote dozens of tall-tale books that have sold more than 100 million copies, maybe twice that many if you count translations from the German. Kaiser Wilhelm II, like May a fantasist who loved to dress up in exotic costumes, adored May's books. So did Einstein and Albert Schweitzer, Kafka and Fritz Lang. Hitler did too.
    The books are actually not that bad a read. Of course, I doubt there is much in the way of historical accuracy... but there aren't as many howlers as there were in say.. Fenimore Cooper. Still, decent reading for teens, even if it's a little black and white..
    [Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.]

  7. #7
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    12-17-09
    Location
    EEU
    Posts
    2,557
    Saw it today, on Blu-Ray disc.

    No real surprises. It's a farce with a some clever jokes, many silly ones, quite unpredictable plot and silliness.

    I'd have appreciated a more 'realistic' plot, as in, not taking so many liberties with political realities, but then, making up good, tight stories isn't easy.

    Overall, the film is quite refreshing. Good visuals too.
    [Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.]

  8. #8
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    05-10-05
    Location
    Kingsport Tennessee
    Posts
    5,295
    If you cannot find Iron Sky Asylum films has come to the rescue with Nazis at the Center of the Earth which is not only meant to appeal to fans of Iron Sky but is also based on Wolfenstein 3D the video game. Ee-yew bull is my reaction.

    Asylum are the incredibly talented folks who beat Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter to the video rental stores with their movie Abraham Lincoln v. the Zombies budgeted at $150,000.
    Cogito me cogitare; ergo, cogito me esse.

  9. #9
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    07-25-04
    Posts
    1,460
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanius View Post
    Featuring Sarah Palin as US president. Shame they couldn't get her to play herself.. she has acting talent I believe.
    Who better to fight leftist-collectivists?
    "There is no lie too grotesque, too stupid, or too base for leftist extremists to retell." -- Standing Wolf

    Posted from my Ubuntu machine.

  10. #10
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    06-12-10
    Location
    Kodiak, Alaska
    Posts
    3,469
    Iron Sky has not been released (outside of Finland) on DVD yet. I have the earlier work "Star Wreck" and it's extremely funny!

    I'm looking forward to Iron Sky.


  11. #11
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    12-17-09
    Location
    EEU
    Posts
    2,557
    Iron Sky has not been released (outside of Finland) on DVD yet.
    It has.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Iron-Sky-DVD...3824241&sr=8-1

    Bought it from UK amazon last month...

    US DVD's are lagging though... 2nd of October for some reason, blu.ray on August 12th or so.
    [Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.]

  12. #12
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    05-10-05
    Location
    Kingsport Tennessee
    Posts
    5,295
    woke and can't sleep so I'll rant awhile

    Iron Sky at Internet Movie Database IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/
    Storyline

    In the last moments of World War II, a secret Nazi space program evaded destruction by fleeing to the Dark Side of the Moon. During 70 years of utter secrecy, the Nazis construct a gigantic space fortress with a massive armada of flying saucers.
    I am getting irritated by the references to a secret Nazi base hidden from the rest of us on the "Dark Side of the Moon".

    Those Nazis are a lot like some of the other self-important supremacists I have encountered--"yellow dog" democ-rats and liberal academics for instance: they just don't know their astronomy from a hole in the ground, yet they are arrogant about their superiority.

    The moon has a "Far Side" that stays hidden from the earth because the moon orbits the earth once every 28 earth days, same time frame as it rotates on its axis (which implies the sequels to Iron Sky will involve secret bases on the "Far Side of the Moon" by Italian Fascists and Bushido Imperialists).

    BUT because the moon rotates with respect to the Sun every 28 earth days every side of the moon has sunlight for 14 earth days and is dark for 14 earth days (which implies the sequel to the vampires in Alaska movie "30 Days of Night" will be a vampires on the Moon movie: "14 Earth Days of Night").

    So every side of the moon is dark and light in a ~28 day cycle. There is no Dark Side of the Moon.

    Now, what has this post got to do with media, guns and civil rights? Nazis of course. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Oh, wait a minute, this thread is about Nazis on the Moon, does Godwin even apply?)

    Albert "e=mc2" Einstein immigrated to the United States from Germany in 1933 due to pressure from the Nazis under chancellor Adolf Hitler. Contemporary reports of that pressure included: "Nazis Hunt Arms in Einstein Home", N.Y. TIMES, Mar. 21, 1933, at page 10, describing the failed Gestapo hunt for a cache of weapons in Albert Einstein’s home; the hunt revealed nothing more dangerous than a bread knife. I suspect that helped lead to Einstein leaving Germany* and ultimately FDR getting a letter from Einstein and deciding to fast track development of the atomic bomb before Hitler. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninten...uences_(novel) )

    Gun control proposed by U Chicago Law School Dean Norval Morris in 1970 included warrantless searches for firearms; Morris declared: there can be no right to privacy when it comes to possession of deadly weapons. The gun judges in Chicago found it easy to dismiss gun charges against non-criminal gun owners because most Chicago police searches for guns involved gross violations of the Fourth Amendment (Kates "Restricting Handguns" 1979) until judicial discretion was removed under mandatory sentencing laws. And under Lord Mayor of Gotham Michael Bloomberg's "stop and frisk" policy, NYPD do warrantless searches on over 600,000 people a year on the streets of NYC. Nazis are not on the far side of the moon. They are here, and obsessed with guns.




    --------------------------
    *See also (if you are really insomniac):
    Stephen Halbrook, "Nazism, the Second Amendment, and the NRA: A Reply to Professor Harcourt", 11 Texas Rev. Law & Pol. 114 (2006)
    in reply to:
    Bernard E. Harcourt, "On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars (A Call to Historians)", 73 Fordham L. Rev. 653 (2004)
    Cogito me cogitare; ergo, cogito me esse.

  13. #13
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    03-29-03
    Location
    Central Texas
    Posts
    4,365
    Having been raised in 1/6 gravity, wouldn't Moon Nazis be as weak as kittens?
    Pay attention - the inmates really are running the asylum.

  14. #14
    Senior Member  
    Join Date
    10-30-07
    Location
    Tucson
    Posts
    297
    Quote Originally Posted by HankB View Post
    Having been raised in 1/6 gravity, wouldn't Moon Nazis be as weak as kittens?
    Not if they habitually wore weighted suits. But their reflexes/physical co-ordination would be waaaaaaaay off for the first few weeks in an Earth-normal gravitational field. That alone ought to make them pretty useless as an invasion force.

    And then there's the whole problem of a circulatory system used to a 1/6th G field... Unless they spent a LOT of time in large Personnel centrifuges....


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •