Bloomberg steps on tongue about police strike

**Selena** · July 25th, 2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Loosedhorse

Well, that comment shows both dishonesty as well as ignorance--dishonesty for the "admired", ignorance for the "peacefully".

It is perhaps forgotten that US POWs died in Nazi camps, too. I suppose you believe they "just let themselves" be killed, too? Died on their knees?And where do they say that the Jews were at fault for Nazi death camps? Again, it used to be amazing to me that someone could quote "the Israelis" (

), and have no idea what the quote means.

Funny, all this effort spent by GRM members to defend the gratuitously introduced notions of a "typical Eastern Jew" stereotype, and of Jews being at fault for the Holocaust.

Stereotype? Nein Kamarde, Żydowski Związek Wojskowy is the stereotype. Unlike many they didn't buy into the theory if they gave the uniformed thugs what they wanted it was better for the whole.

**Johnny Dollar** · July 25th, 2012, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Selena

Stereotype? Nein Kamarde, Żydowski Związek Wojskowy is the stereotype. Unlike many they didn't buy into the theory if they gave the uniformed thugs what they wanted it was better for the whole.

I admire your effort,Selena, but the two of us feeding this troll is not going to advance the overall health of this forum. It is truly counterproductive, a trolls delight.

I propose abstinence and perhaps,as before, it will once again,slink away into the netherworld.

We can hope,can't we? Do you believe in miracles? 10-7.

**KodiakBeer** · July 25th, 2012, 03:28 PM

1. The holocaust didn't occur with the victims (or anybody outside the ranks of Himmler's dominion) knowing what was going on. They didn't have the benefit of hindsight to know that the "resettlement" they were going to was actually a death camp. They also didn't have any alternatives such as immigration - the UK and US slammed the door in the faces of all but a few very rich or very important Jews.

As to the OP, am I the only one who would welcome a national police strike? I think after the first few days everyone would realize we don't really need the police. At least, those of us who are armed wouldn't need them and the rest would quickly see the wisdom of owning a gun and learning how to use it.

Outside of large metropolitan areas, who really needs the police? Most places would be just as well served by a volunteer police force in the same way they have volunteer fire services.

**Selena** · July 25th, 2012, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Johnny Dollar

I admire your effort,Selena, but the two of us feeding this troll is not going to advance the overall health of this forum. It is truly counterproductive, a trolls delight.

I propose abstinence and perhaps,as before, it will once again,slink away into the netherworld.

We can hope,can't we? Do you believe in miracles? 10-7.

Since you ask so nicely. I'll treat him like the old guy and I treat Chicago.

Warning, particularly bad old guy music!
Only the first line is relevant.

**Loosedhorse** · July 25th, 2012, 04:29 PM

this troll

I make my first post in a month--objecting to a comment, not a person--and immediately receive personal attacks from JD in response.

And he pretends to be concerned with what's good for the health of this forum. Like making antisemitic remarks, and personal attacks, perhaps?

Since you mentioned one of my June 26th posts, perhaps I might mention that I received in return a thoughtful response--without any personal attacks or strawmen--that same day from Dave Workman; he managed to respond with no ad hominem at all.

My June 26th post you didn't mention was my agreeing with Dave (to the extent I could). Real troll stuff there, huh, JD? Shall I mention your previous post about your wanting to kill a black teenager for...doing what, again?

Let's see: instead of making on-point responses, he makes antisemitic comments. Then, when called on it, he quickly diverts attention from the thread's actual topic by attacking, and succeeds (again!) in making his attacks on me the subject of the derailed thread. You've got a pretty clear agenda, there, JD.

Why would anyone take time off from such a poisoned forum?

**Johnny Dollar** · July 25th, 2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by KodiakBeer

1.

As to the OP, am I the only one who would welcome a national police strike? I think after the first few days everyone would realize we don't really need the police. At least, those of us who are armed wouldn't need them and the rest would quickly see the wisdom of owning a gun and learning how to use it.

Outside of large metropolitan areas, who really needs the police? Most places would be just as well served by a volunteer police force in the same way they have volunteer fire services.

So you are agreeing 100% with my post #10. I think.

**basicblur** · July 25th, 2012, 04:49 PM

As to the OP, am I the only one who would welcome a national police strike?

You may have been the only one saying it, but I'm sure many were thinking it.

**Selena** · July 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by basicblur

You may have been the only one saying it, but I'm sure many were thinking it.

Let the record reflect I made no comment, red font or otherwise.

**KodiakBeer** · July 25th, 2012, 04:59 PM

JD wasn't being anti-Semitic, though I disagree with his characterization for reasons I expressed in an earlier post.

Jewish history in Europe is a series of pogroms going back a thousand years. They had often been pushed from one place to another and this must have seemed no different. This time, they were being expelled to Poland and things would be better there...

Read of the Malmedy Massacre; American soldiers lined up in a Belgian field after capture, expecting to be taken to the rear and sent to a P.O.W. camp, until the machine guns opened up. When the shooting started, they just hit the ground and the shooting continued into their prone bodies. There was no resistance after the initial brief firefight. They had surrendered because they were an artillery battalion caught on the road in column by a German SS Panzer regiment. Now the SS said "Stand over here until you can be escorted to the rear."
That's a microcosm of what happened across Europe to the Jews. "Get on the train and things will be better." "Go into the showers..."

**KodiakBeer** · July 25th, 2012, 05:01 PM

JD: So you are agreeing 100% with my post #10. I think.

Yes! Absolutely.

**Paul47** · July 25th, 2012, 08:48 PM

sigh...

As to the OP, am I the only one who would welcome a national police strike?

Me too. And many facebook friends are cheering Bloomberg on. What a great way to show we don't need cops after all. What a great way to boost gun sales. Which is why it will never happen, of course...

**bigfatdave** · July 25th, 2012, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by KodiakBeer

am I the only one who would welcome a national police strike?

I wonder how long it would take for me to notice?

**basicblur** · July 25th, 2012, 10:28 PM

Heck - let's don't stop with the police (actually, I wouldn't start with 'em).
I can think of a few mayors that should go on strike...

**NEOKShooter** · July 25th, 2012, 11:52 PM

Two comments:

If the police go on strike, who will fill out the police reports that our insurance companies need when something is stolen? Other than that, who cares? Kind of like Congress; we may be better off when they're not working.

As for the Jews in the sub-thread; even if the Jews in Germany didn't know and didn't have a chance to save themselves, we know for sure that the Jews today know what the possibilities are. There is no ignorance excuse today. Anti-gun Jews are traitors and cowards. They are selling the lives of their children for a bit of self-satisfaction today. I can tolerate a difference of opinion on guns between me and a liberal but I feel nothing but contempt and disgust for an anti-gun Jew.

**Loosedhorse** · July 26th, 2012, 11:19 AM

Anti-gun Jews are traitors and cowards. They are selling the lives of their children for a bit of self-satisfaction today. I can tolerate a difference of opinion on guns between me and a liberal but I feel nothing but contempt and disgust for an anti-gun Jew.

Anyone want to tell me why it is necessary to mention "Jews" in the above quote? Are you implying, NEOK, that non-Jewish antigunners are not--your phrase--"traitors and cowards"?

If you're NOT implying that, why was it necessary to specifically single out anti-gun Jews for criticism?

**Selena** · July 26th, 2012, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by NEOKShooter

Two comments:

If the police go on strike, who will fill out the police reports that our insurance companies need when something is stolen? Other than that, who cares? Kind of like Congress; we may be better off when they're not working.

As for the Jews in the sub-thread; even if the Jews in Germany didn't know and didn't have a chance to save themselves, we know for sure that the Jews today know what the possibilities are. There is no ignorance excuse today. Anti-gun Jews are traitors and cowards. They are selling the lives of their children for a bit of self-satisfaction today. I can tolerate a difference of opinion on guns between me and a liberal but I feel nothing but contempt and disgust for an anti-gun Jew.

I remember speaking to an Israeli officer when my hubby was stationed at Myer. He and hubby were having a discussion on (of all things) the effectiveness of the Uzi submachine gun. The man gave the impression that the "chosen people" in the US had no real belief in the phrase "never again." I've often wished I could have my uncle talk to the guy. It would have been an interesting exchange.

**Johnny Dollar** · July 26th, 2012, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Selena

I remember speaking to an Israeli officer when my hubby was stationed at Myer. He and hubby were having a discussion on (of all things) the effectiveness of the Uzi submachine gun. The man gave the impression that the "chosen people" in the US had no real belief in the phrase "never again." I've often wished I could have my uncle talk to the guy. It would have been an interesting exchange.

Dale and Selena, I would suggest not replying. We had a month breathing free air. The entire forum felt vivacious and practically euphoric! Free of the poisonous rhetoric. The subject cannot be reformed.

So abstinence,IMO, is the only possible curative.

**KodiakBeer** · July 26th, 2012, 12:42 PM

It's nice to see LH back! If we all agreed on this forum, it would get pretty dull...

**Johnny Dollar** · July 26th, 2012, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by KodiakBeer

It's nice to see LH back! If we all agreed on this forum, it would get pretty dull...

A majority of one is always very cool!

**KodiakBeer** · July 26th, 2012, 01:28 PM

He was out of line to accuse you of Anti-Semitism, but he was calling it as he saw it - no matter how much I may disagree. LH and I have butted heads many times over several years, yet I've come to like him for that very reason - he says what he thinks! So do you, so it's not surprising that you would also butt heads with him.

Somehow, I think it would be a riot to kill a quart of bourbon with both of you - and Selena too, though she could stick with tea or whatever non-drinkers imbibe.

Tell LH how much you admire Israel (I'm sure you do!) and disarm the Anti-Semite jab. It's a forum, so defend yourself.

**Johnny Dollar** · July 26th, 2012, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by KodiakBeer

He was out of line to accuse you of Anti-Semitism, but he was calling it as he saw it - no matter how much I may disagree. LH and I have butted heads many times over several years, yet I've come to like him for that very reason - he says what he thinks! So do you, so it's not surprising that you would also butt heads with him.

Somehow, I think it would be a riot to kill a quart of bourbon with both of you - and Selena too, though she could stick with tea or whatever non-drinkers imbibe.

Tell LH how much you admire Israel (I'm sure you do!) and disarm the Anti-Semite jab. It's a forum, so defend yourself.

OK,you are very charming and you win. I do admire the Israeli's immensely, and my best friend ,Steve Rubin ,is a Jew from Brooklyn. Hi,Stevie!

Also I just re-read Goldfish and feel so delightful, I'd might even try to shake Mikey Bloomberg's hand (if I could get past the armed bodyguards

) and treat him to a cool one.

And yeah,the quart of Jim Beam (not Wild Turkey!

) sounds good.

**Temma** · July 26th, 2012, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by KodiakBeer

As to the OP, am I the only one who would welcome a national police strike?

No, you're not.

The police don't protect individuals. They draw chalk outlines around individuals who don't protect themselves.

Police have no legal duty to protect individuals.
Police have no legal liability when they fail to protect individuals.
Police have virtually no physical ability to protect individuals.

The sooner the lie of police protection fades away, the better.

**Johnny Dollar** · July 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM

The sooner the lie of police protection fades away, the better.

Can I do a poll on this?

Will it alienate my cop brethren on the forum?

**KodiakBeer** · July 26th, 2012, 01:50 PM

OK,you are very charming and you win. I do admire the Israeli's immensely, and my best friend ,Steve Rubin ,is a Jew from Brooklyn. Hi,Stevie!

Take that, LH!

True, I am charming, though it's hard to discern through all the abrasiveness...

**Johnny Dollar** · July 26th, 2012, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by KodiakBeer

Take that, LH!

True, I am charming, though it's hard to discern through all the abrasiveness...

And the beard. Gillette,take note!

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