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    Dr. Williams discusses the Second Amendment:

    A MINORITY VIEW
    BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
    RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 2, 2013

    Why the 2nd Amendment

    Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings, said: “The British are not coming. ... We don’t need all these guns to kill people." Lewis’ vision, shared by many, represents a gross ignorance of why the framers of the Constitution gave us the Second Amendment. How about a few quotes from the period and you decide whether our Founding Fathers harbored a fear of foreign tyrants.

    Alexander Hamilton: “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed,” adding later, “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government.” By the way, Hamilton is referring to what institution when he says “the representatives of the people”?

    James Madison: “(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

    Thomas Jefferson: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."

    George Mason, author of the Virginia Bill of Rights, which inspired our Constitution’s Bill of Rights, said, “To disarm the people -- that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

    Rep. John Lewis and like-minded people might dismiss these thoughts by saying the founders were racist anyway. Here’s a more recent quote from a card-carrying liberal, the late Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey: “Certainly, one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. ... The right of the citizen to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible." I have many other Second Amendment references at http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes.html.

    How about a couple of quotations with which Rep. Lewis and others might agree? "Armas para que?" (translated: "Guns, for what?") by Fidel Castro. There’s a more famous one: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing." That was Adolf Hitler.

    Here’s the gun grabbers’ slippery-slope agenda, laid out by Nelson T. Shields, founder of Handgun Control Inc.: "We're going to have to take this one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest. ... Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. ... The final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition -- except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal" (The New Yorker, July 1976).

    There have been people who’ve ridiculed the protections afforded by the Second Amendment, asking what chance would citizens have against the military might of the U.S. government. Military might isn’t always the deciding factor. Our 1776 War of Independence was against the mightiest nation on the face of the earth -- Great Britain. In Syria, the rebels are making life uncomfortable for the much-better-equipped Syrian regime. Today’s Americans are vastly better-armed than our founders, Warsaw Ghetto Jews and Syrian rebels.

    There are about 300 million privately held firearms owned by Americans. That’s nothing to sneeze at. And notice that the people who support gun control are the very people who want to control and dictate our lives.

    Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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    Typical of Dr. Williams. Straight and to the point. "Just the facts, Ma'am!"

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    Excellent. My Cuban born wife remembers the Castro quote quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipperhead View Post
    Typical of Dr. Williams. Straight and to the point. "Just the facts, Ma'am!"

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    It is sad that he was to smart to get into politics!

    He is one of my favorite speakers. He is a great man, with a great mind, and a love of this nation. Oh to have many more like him.
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    Nice article Zip! Wonderful read, too bad we don't have a few dozen just like him.
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    gun control

    Such an interesting thread and informative as well. The nation's powerful gun lobby may have met its match in previous Ariz. Rep. Giffords and her previous astronaut husband Mark Kelly. Further more, the couple has introduced a Political Action Committee aimed at tightening laws about gun ownership. Have you heard about this?


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    ..what chance would citizens have against the military might of the U.S. government...

    The Filipino guerillas made life miserable for the Japanese conquerors in WWII, often with single shot weapons made form gas pipes. Good for taking out sentries and taking their weapons.

    On a domestic tyranny, it would not be the same case as an occupying conqueror. I suspect the US military, which swears an oath to support and defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic, given a choice between a tyrannic government and their fellow Americans, would be a shaky support for a tyranny: who would the military see as the enemy domestic, a tyrannic government or the people of the United States?

    The left are fond of (mis)quoting Hobbes and Weber on the absolute state ruling through a monopoly on use of force. Younger US recruits may tend to blindly follow orders, but more experienced US NCOs and COs who would give the orders have indicated that they are more likely to regard illegal orders as void under the US Constitution and military UCMJ.
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    Troll alert!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SheenB View Post
    Such an interesting thread and informative as well. The nation's powerful gun lobby may have met its match in previous Ariz. Rep. Giffords and her previous astronaut husband Mark Kelly. Further more, the couple has introduced a Political Action Committee aimed at tightening laws about gun ownership. Have you heard about this?


    Best regards!

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    Using your first post to bring this thread back to life after nearly 8 months of inactivity with a less than tenuous connection, is trolling of the highest order, if you ask me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipperhead View Post
    Using your first post to bring this thread back to life after nearly 8 months of inactivity with a less than tenuous connection, is trolling of the highest order, if you ask me.


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    Second that thought. A classic case!
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    My first thought was "troll" especially when mention of the Giffords was made. Was that intended as a threat?
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    "The nation's powerful gun lobby may have met its match in previous..."

    Use of previous rather than "former" is odd.

    Search for that phrase yields:

    www.stardem.com
    "O'Malley testifies for gun control"
    "melodyhudgens" posted Sat, Jun 15, 2013.
    Each one of us thinks uniquely. That is the reason why, we have different opinions in a specific issue. We cannot deny that gun control trends, recently. Many are arguing about it. Additionally, the nation's powerful gun lobby may have met its match in previous Ariz. Rep. Giffords and her previous astronaut husband Mark Kelly. The couple has introduced a Political Action Committee aimed at tightening laws about gun ownership. Find out more.
    www.newtownbee.com
    "Sandy Hook Panel Urges Broader Gun Controls"
    "melodyhudgens" post 06/15/2013

    www.armyparatrooper.org
    "How is your State rated on Gun Control"
    "SheenB" post 8-3-2013
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    Mark Kelly's name alone is enough to stop the conversation. A Darwin Award candidate for at least as long as the fool draws breath.
    "A man's got to know his limitations."

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    In 1935 Hitler enacted gun control.

    Remember how that worked out?

    Later in the century Chairman Mao enacted gun control.

    30 million of his own people died, more than was ever

    lost to all of China's invaders combined .

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