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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    SD gov did in fact veto HB 1072, the permitless carry bill. Our next shot is 2019, when he's no longer in office.
    A veto override vote will be held on Monday.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-gun-bill-veto

    Considering the vote count the bill had when put before the governor there are few with confidence the veto override will pass.
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    Nebraska LB 502, permitless carry, introduced

    http://lexch.com/news/regional/permi...f040099be.html

    A permitless carry bill, LB 502, has been brought to the Nebraska legislature. It is not expected to be brought up for a vote.
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    NRA commentary on spread of permitless carry

    https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/a...our-wild-west/

    The NRA has posted a piece authored by Charles C.W. Cooke from National Review. He gives a nice summary of how our right to self defense has been restored in the last three decades, and what we might expect in the years to come.
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    Alabama SB24 out of committee

    http://www.theplainsman.com/article/...he-legislature

    Alabama SB24 is out of senate committee and is position to be debated by the entirety of the senate.

    The passage of SB24 would bring Alabama in line with 10 other states, including neighboring Mississippi, that already have laws allowing concealed carry without a permit for state residents and non-residents.
    10 states? I thought it was 12? I lost count somewhere. I ran out of fingers to count them all, a good problem to have IMHO.

    Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a non-partisan, grassroots organization that seeks common sense solutions to gun violence, is also in opposition to the bill. According to Anne Leader, the Alabama chapter leader, the group is choosing to stand with law enforcement.
    "Non-partisan"? "Grassroots"? I should be quiet about Moms Demand because Grandma told me if I had nothing nice to say then it's best to say nothing at all.
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    Maine LD 44 and LD 574, permitless carry reform bills

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017...-session-today

    Several bills came out of legislative committess this week, two of which "clean up" the recently enacted permitless carry law.

    LD 44 would lower the age of concealed carry from 21 to 18. Currently only those that have enlisted in the military may carry a concealed weapon between the ages of 18 and 21.

    LD 574 would remove the "duty to inform" for those that choose to exercise their right to carry a tool of self defense without first obtaining a permit from the state. This "duty to inform" is one of the stupidest provisions I have seen in law, I hope it is repealed quickly.
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    Minnesota HF 188

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017...he-legislature

    NRA-ILA is asking all Minnesota residents to contact their legislators to support HF 188, a bill to repeal the requirement to have a permit to carry the tools of self defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IA_farmboy View Post
    http://www.theplainsman.com/article/...he-legislature

    Alabama SB24 is out of senate committee and is position to be debated by the entirety of the senate.



    10 states? I thought it was 12? I lost count somewhere. I ran out of fingers to count them all, a good problem to have IMHO.



    "Non-partisan"? "Grassroots"? I should be quiet about Moms Demand because Grandma told me if I had nothing nice to say then it's best to say nothing at all.

    Good updates. Thank you! www.opencarry.org
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    Veto override fails in South Dakota

    Quote Originally Posted by IA_farmboy View Post
    A veto override vote will be held on Monday.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-gun-bill-veto

    Considering the vote count the bill had when put before the governor there are few with confidence the veto override will pass.
    Veto override vote failed.

    http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/Vet...417207243.html
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    Wisconsin LRB 2039 permitless carry act

    Permitless carry bill, LRB 2039, introduced in Wisconsin.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...for-wisconsin/

    Senator Craig explained the motivation behind the bill:

    At its essence, this bill does two things: removes barriers to the exercise of a constitutional right and simplifies the law. If you decide to carry a weapon to protect yourself or your family, you should be able to do so easily – without bureaucratic hurdles and without cost.

    We already give people the ability to openly carry a firearm without a license. With this bill, law-abiding citizens will have the same right to carry discreetly that they currently have to carry openly. If you decide to throw on a coat, you should not be considered a criminal.
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    Texas House Committees debate permitless carry

    I do wish that these articles would give bill numbers. I see that permitless carry is being debated in the Texas legislature but no bill number is mentioned, unless I just missed it.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/guns/...panel-debating
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    North Carolina debates HB 201, permitless carry

    North Carolina bill H201 would remove the requirement for adults to have a permit to carry the tools of self defense.

    http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com...orth-carolina/

    H201 was referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary I where it needs to pass by a majority before moving forward in the legislative process. A similar bill, H69 also has yet to have a scheduled public hearing in that committee.
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    Oklahoma HB 2322, permitless carry, passes in House

    Quote Originally Posted by ConstitutionCowboy View Post
    I'm on the lookout for something positive here in Oklahoma on the Constitutional Carry issue. Our legislative session begins shortly. So far, I've seen nothing in the wind about CC.

    Woody
    Look at this, Woody:

    http://swoknews.com/area/gun-bills-coody-advance-senate

    House Bill 2323 would allow residents who meet certain criteria to carry a pistol, concealed or unconcealed, loaded or unloaded, in their vehicle, without possessing a valid handgun license. It also would allow residents who meet certain criteria to carry a rifle or shotgun, concealed or unconcealed but unloaded, in their vehicle at any time. House Bill 2322 clarifies some provisions in the Oklahoma Firearms Act, specifying that municipalities and other political subdivisions of the state may not pass regulations in violation of the provisions of that act and setting guidelines for court awards for anyone who is "adversely affected" by political subdivisions that do so in violation of state law.

    HB 2323 passed the House Tuesday on a 70-16 vote and had its first reading in the Senate Wednesday, but had not been assigned to a committee as of Friday. HB 2322 passed the House Monday by a 76-10 vote and had its first reading in the Senate Tuesday, but has not been assigned to a committee.
    Didn't Oklahoma (and your neighbor Texas) get open carry in the last year or two? Keep the ball rolling if you can.
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    Tennessee House kills permitless carry bills

    Permitless carry killed by Tennessee House panel.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ealed-gun-bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by IA_farmboy View Post
    Look at this, Woody:

    http://swoknews.com/area/gun-bills-coody-advance-senate



    Didn't Oklahoma (and your neighbor Texas) get open carry in the last year or two? Keep the ball rolling if you can.
    Yeah, 2323 is step forward but it is still not constitution carry. We did get open carry but you still have to have a permit. We're working on cc, though. OK2A is hot on the trail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstitutionCowboy View Post
    Yeah, 2323 is step forward but it is still not constitution carry. We did get open carry but you still have to have a permit. We're working on cc, though. OK2A is hot on the trail!

    Woody
    Right, that's a vehicle carry bill. That will teach me to read more carefully. Thanks.
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    Muslim groups oppose permitless carry in Minnesota

    http://aapress.com/government/muslim...l-on-march-29/

    ST. PAUL, Minn. (March 27, 2017) — On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Representative Ilhan Omar, the Muslim American Society of Minnesota (MAS-MN) along with 42 sponsoring organizations will host the 13th Annual Muslim Day at the Capitol. Hundreds of Muslims from all over the state will gather at this event at the Minnesota State Capitol. Many allies of the Muslim community are also expected to attend.
    Muslim Day at the Capitol serves as an event to encourage civic engagement within the Muslim community in Minnesota. Attendees will meet in the morning for a training where they will receive a briefing on the agenda for the day. This year’s agenda includes the bill to remove the marriage disincentive for families on MFIP (HF1465/SF1153), opposing the expansion of firearms proliferation (HF238/SF292 & HF188/SF649) and supporting the Religious Holiday Recognition Bill.
    Why would Muslims oppose allowing law abiding citizens from being able to defend themselves with a firearm?

    Using the words "firearms proliferation" is a bit loaded, don't you think?

    I have my theories on why Muslims would gather to oppose a public armed to defend themselves from violence. I'll keep those theories to myself for now since this thread may not be the proper place to discuss them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IA_farmboy View Post
    http://aapress.com/government/muslim...l-on-march-29/



    Why would Muslims oppose allowing law abiding citizens from being able to defend themselves with a firearm?

    Using the words "firearms proliferation" is a bit loaded, don't you think?

    I have my theories on why Muslims would gather to oppose a public armed to defend themselves from violence. I'll keep those theories to myself for now since this thread may not be the proper place to discuss them.
    Armed Dhimmis are antithetical to the caliphate. No theory necessary.

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    Permitless carry bills introduced in Michigan

    https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/a...mitless-carry/

    A package of bills was introduced in the Michigan House of Representatives this week that could make Michigan the 13th state in the nation to allow “permitless” carry.

    The bills, HB4416-HB4419, would eliminate penalties for those carrying concealed handguns without a permit, thereby liberating the self-defense decisions of law-abiding citizens in the Wolverine state from the bounds of government-mandated time delays and taxes. (The current permitting structure would remain in place for those wishing to carry openly in some restricted areas or take advantage of Michigan’s reciprocity agreements.)
    What's good for the goose is good for the Michigander.
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    Permitless carry passes in South Carolina House, goes to Senate

    Breaking news!

    The South Carolina House of Representatives voted hours ago to pass a bill removing the need to have a permit to carry a loaded sidearm. I'm not sure if this covers open and concealed carry or just open carry. I haven't seen or heard of what the bill number is to check.
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    If this becames law, Florida will be the only southern state and one of only 5 states in the country without OC.

    Hard to believe with the huge GOP advantage in both chambers and perhaps the most pro gun Governor in America. A rogue Republican on the Rules Committee is constanty souring the mash. It is beyond frustrating.
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    Permitless carry news from Texas, South Carolina, and Alabama

    Texas House Bill 1911 would remove the requirement to have government permission before carrying a handgun for any law abiding citizen over the age of 21. It also appears that the bill would allow for open carry of a handgun for those with a permit at 18 years of age.
    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/04...y-legislation/

    It seems a similar (but not identical) bill was recently passed by the Texas Senate, which implies to me that if this passes then some sort of process of reconciling the differences must happen at some point.

    (Does anyone else find the bill number oddly appropriate, considering it's intent?)

    South Carolina Senate bill S449 would remove the requirement to have a permit to carry a handgun in that state. Like in Texas this is a senate bill that is similar but not identical to a house bill that was passed recently. Unlike in Texas the current law in South Carolina does not allow for open carry in any form, this bill would make open carry lawful as well.

    http://www.thestate.com/news/local/a...145308529.html

    The Alabama Senate recently voted to approve a bill removing the need for government permission to carry a concealed handgun. Unlike Texas and South Carolina it is already lawful in Alabama to carry a handgun openly without prior government approval. I did not see a bill identifier for this bill, if someone can find it then please post it in this thread.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-carry-permits

    I guessed back in February that we'd see at least three states pass permitless carry into law this year. I'll give 10,000 Internet Points to the person that can correctly guess the exact number of permitless carry laws enacted by the end of this calendar year. Ties will be broken by correctly guessing which states. If there is still a tie then it will come down to the best two of three games of rock-paper-scissors.
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    Open carry bill advances in South Carolina

    An open carry bill has passed out of a South Carolina Senate committee and is expected to be heard by the entire Senate soon. Thanks to NRA-ILA for bringing this to my attention:

    http://www.postandcourier.com/politi...8e3d94cf1.html

    This sounds like an open carry bill but in several places they call it "permitless" and "constitutional" carry. The ability to carry an unconcealed firearm does not sound like "constitutional carry" to me. Unless I am mistaken on the intent of the bill I'm calling this an open carry bill.

    It sounds like the Democrats watered down the original permitless carry bill to cover only those weapons carried openly. It passed out of a senate committee and is expected to pass in the full senate. It sounds like the South Carolina legislature has two year long sessions and meet only for a few weeks every year. So while this is not likely to pass this year that does not render the bill dead, if passed in the Senate this May then it will be picked up in the House in January.

    As it stands now South Carolina has no provision for open carry, one of only five states to do so.
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    Wisconsin and North Carolina

    NRA-ILA tells me that there is movement on house bills in both Wisconsin and North Carolina to remove the requirement to have a permit to carry concealed sidearms.

    North Carolina bill is HB 746. I did not see a bill identifier for the bill in Wisconsin.
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    hoping the N.C. bill goes through, unfortunately we have a Democrat Governor again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grmlin View Post
    hoping the N.C. bill goes through, unfortunately we have a Democrat Governor again.
    Yes, the Dem Governor is bad news. North Carolina being my second home and having 2 daughters with homes in the state, I was hoping to see that bill go through. It still could happen.
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