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    Background checks for gun sales break records

    I saw this today:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...-march-record/

    Gun background checks soared to over 2.7 million in March, shattering the previous record by almost 250,000.
    Nothing sells guns like politicians talking about gun control.

    We're seeing "ghost guns" getting propped up as a bogeyman too.

    https://ctmirror.org/2018/04/03/lawm...ks-ghost-guns/

    Rep. Robyn Porter, D-New Haven, backed the ban and said her support wasn’t based on an emotional response in the least.

    “Why do we need these guns to start with?” Porter said. “And why on earth would we have to put in the hands of people something that would help them to expedite their efforts to have a mass shooting and a mass killing?”
    That's not an appeal to emotion AT ALL.

    I expect to read about a jump in the sales of CNC mills real soon now. These politicians might try to ban guns but it's going to be real hard to ban drill presses and blocks of aluminum. I still have some GI Bill money to pay for classes at university, maybe I'll take this class I saw on metal working. I can apply the credits towards my "performance art" general education requirement. I'm thinking maybe a 3D sculpture in aluminum might be something to try. I already have a name for it picked out, "Molon Labe".
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    Used my VA benefits for a degree in CNC Machining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grmlin View Post
    Used my VA benefits for a degree in CNC Machining.
    That's excellent! Just curious, do you know how to machine 80% AR-15 receivers? I'm asking for a friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IA_farmboy View Post
    That's excellent! Just curious, do you know how to machine 80% AR-15 receivers? I'm asking for a friend.
    It can be done with a drill press and files. Just follow the instructions.

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    I believe the CNC would be "faster" but I have to wonder about the quality of the final product, when compared to "hand work". With the CNC, not only do you have speed but "repeatability" as well, making it possible to make multiple receivers in which the parts are interchangeable.
    With hand files, you get into that area that gunmakers had 250 years ago - individuality. Most parts could NOT be traded between guns, at least not with out some serious benchwork "adjusting the fit" of the parts. You don't have that repeatability in hand work that you have with CNC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    I believe the CNC would be "faster" but I have to wonder about the quality of the final product, when compared to "hand work". With the CNC, not only do you have speed but "repeatability" as well, making it possible to make multiple receivers in which the parts are interchangeable.
    With hand files, you get into that area that gunmakers had 250 years ago - individuality. Most parts could NOT be traded between guns, at least not with out some serious benchwork "adjusting the fit" of the parts. You don't have that repeatability in hand work that you have with CNC.
    CNC machines are costly and a person will have to be able to program it. The cheapest I've seen is a used one for $1,500.00 and it appears to be nothing more than a converted vertical mill with servo motors on each axis plugged into a DRO. It is probably worn out and so loose you couldn't make two parts identical if you tried.

    Purpose built CNC machines start around ten grand on up to megabucks, then you need the computer to control it, and then you need to purchase all the tools and tool holders.

    If a person desires to make more than one or two ARs and intends to go into the business of turning these things out, that person will need to get a manufacturer's FFL. That would make buying a (or a few) decent CNC machine(s) worth while.

    As far as repeatability and standardized interchangeable parts, it can be done with a drill press and files if one is meticulous. That said, these 80% projects all will use standard parts inside and will mate up with just about anybody's uppers. In fact, a person must "machine" their 80% receivers to be able to accept these standard parts. Ergo, some care must be taken when doing the "finishing".

    Check this out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Prbh1ersc

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    All good points. A CNC product will be smoother but as far as time, initial set up and programming it will take time. You can do just as well with a standard mill or even a good drill press.
    I'm still learning and just because it involves computers doesn't make it faster or foolproof.
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