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    1862 Army Police ???

    Lately I've noticed Cabela's advertising a Colt 1862 "Army Police".

    I know Colt made an 1862 Navy Pocket Police - a pistol that is notably smaller than say the 1861 Navy or 1860 Army. But this is the first time I can recall mention of an 1862 "Army Police".

    Anyone have or know about such a Colt model ? Was there actually such a model or is this just some variant dreamt up by the repro- makers?

    Anyone ?

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    just some variant dreamt up by the repro- makers?
    Make believe. It could be cut down in to a very nice belly gun.
    I think it's based on the 1862 Navy Pocket Police, but in .44.
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    it's piettas version of the 1862 Colt not an accurate repo as the original was a 5 shot. Uberti makes an accurate replica.
    one nice thing about the pietta is the frame is the same as a '51 navy and will take a Kirst Konverter.
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    Gotcha ! Will have to look one over if I make it to the Cabela's in Buda, Texas again soon.

    Thanks !


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    Thumbs up 1862 Army Police...

    FWIW, if you like the way it looks and handles, then by all means buy it and enjoy it!

    It's not authentic to the "purist", but then again, these are modern-made revolvers anyhow.

    I had one of those by the way, also from Cabela's, and for many years it was my favorite C&B. I put many layers of masking tape under the hammer (cut thin to fit the slot for the hammer) so I could dry fire it without damaging the nipples. The result was a very crisp and smoooooooooooooooth action!

    When I finally traded it *, the gun behind the counter remarked "Boy, you must have shot this a lot, as the action sure is smooth! But it sure doesn't look like it was shot much..." I just smiled and said yeah, she was well broken in.

    ...* If I hadn't gotten a great deal on a Colt 1861 3rd Generation, I'd still have the Army Police.

    Good luck, and tight groups.

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    Hi #7...


    The 1861 Navy is my favorite of the Colt open-tops and I would love to find a 2nd Generation or Signature Series at a decent price (or even a semi-decent price). I would use it as a shooter too.
    If I could - I would then take the Uberti 1861 I already have and cut the barrel back to 5" to make an extra-handy "point-n-click" handgun.
    Obviously the 1862 Navy Pocket Police was intended for such use but, with its' scaled-down size, it isn't a very good fit for my hand at all - and thus the 1862 "Army Police" at Cabela's caught my eye.

    Thankis for the tip on smoothing the actions !



    In case anyone is interested...

    the gun offered by Cabela's is apparently made by Pietta.

    Also, Cabela's has a "Free shipping in orders over $175" offer going on through March 23rd.

    Just an FYI
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    Colts...

    Hi Shawnee:

    Not to hijack your thread, but I'm using the "masking tape trick" on this one, even though she started out much smoother than the Pietta Army Police...



    Good luck finding a "real Colt" 1861 -- grab it quick if you can! That's what I did...

    Tight groups!

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    Lawdy, that is Sweeeeeet !

    Do all the Signature Series have the fourth screw for the rifle stock add on ?



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    Do all the Signature Series have the fourth screw for the rifle stock add on ?
    Not sure about the sig series. I have both three and four screw 1860's. The four screw Uberti came with a shoulder stock. That stock fits both revolvers. The fourth screw on the Uberti does not touch the shoulder stock when mounted.
    I would like to see some photo's of how the originals mounted. I WAS under the impression that the stock 'hooked' on the forth screw.
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    "I WAS under the impression that the stock 'hooked' on the forth screw."

    I thought likewise but now that you mention it I've never looked at one closely to see exactly how the hook-up was accomplished.



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    The 1861 Navy is my favorite of the Colt open-tops and I would love to find a 2nd Generation or Signature Series at a decent price (or even a semi-decent price). I would use it as a shooter too.
    Shawnee:

    Send me a PM for details if interested...

    Saw a nice 2nd Gen Colt .36 cal Navy today. Shop was packed, but I got close enough to see it had a German Silver trigger guard & backstrap and a price tag of $600.

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    Shawnee,

    Don't know where they came up with the goofy name as it's .36 cal hence Navy not Army caliber, and it's not a small frame pocket pistol sos it's not a police. The Cabelas Pietta 1862 Army Police is basicaly nothing more than a 1861 Navy with a 5 1/2" barrel and half fluted cylinder. Cabelas should have called it a 1861 Sheriffs Model. I own one. I purchased a spare Pietta 1851 Navy barrel and loading lever sos I could convert from 61 to 51 with a simple change of barrels.

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    The '62 Police is a .36 cal Replica of the 1862 NYC Police model in .36 cal.
    It's an 1861 Navy with a cut 5.5" Officers barrel on it.
    I say that the .44 Model would be an 1860 shortened .
    I like my .36 Police... .38spl/.38Colt.
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    Smokin_Gun,

    Nice photo, is your conversion a 5 shot cylinder? I am looking for a 5 shot CF cylinder to rework one of my Pocket Police revolvers.

    Thanks

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    Nope Strawhat it's a full size Colt '61 Navy 6 shot .38Colt/38spl with a 5.5" bbl.
    And Thanks about the pic.
    The 1862 Pocket Police/or Pocket Navy is on the smaller .31 Colt Baby Dragoon or '49 Pocket Frame and is a 5 shot .36 rebated cylinder.
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    The 1862 Pocket Police/or Pocket Navy is on the smaller .31 Colt Baby Dragoon or '49 Pocket Frame and is a 5 shot .36 rebated cylinder.
    The pocket frame Colts were the bread and butter revolver for the company. Production started in late 47 with the first revolvers being sold in 48. The first 3" barrel, rammerless revolvers were the least popular in the line than would include 4, 5, and 6 inch barrels, 5 and 6 round cylinders. Unknown by many there was a minor change in frame size during production when the longer barrels became available. The very early models did not have a cut out for capping the revolver with the cylinder in the gun. It had to be capped with the cylinder removed.
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    I'm using the "masking tape trick" on this one...
    Place your finger on the trigger, bring the hammer to full cock, your thumb very securely on the hammer (gun empty of course) so you can capture the hammer completely, then press the hammer forward, hard, as you pull the trigger, keeping the hammer from falling all the way forward as it's released. You can burnish a trigger sear/hammer interface in short order this way. Use two hands if you like. Takes all the gritty feel right out, but of course the creep is still there. A regular oiling or greasing, and it'll feel like a million bucks.

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    I've got an older '62 brass frame police model(.36cal) It's more of a looker than a shooter. Cabela's has a 5.5bbl '60 army sherriff that seems new to their lineup for 200 clams. I am interested in that one!
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