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Thread: The "TDI Vector" Pistol of 1901?

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    Question The "TDI Vector" Pistol of 1901?

    53-1: Hamilton mod. 1901 seems to be the first weapon to use the Diverted-Recoil system of todays KRISS Super-V submachine gun:



    Source: http://www.earmi.it/armi/atlas/281.htm
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    Interesting find! any more information on this gun?
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    This is pure supposition for many reasons:
    _Many pistols had this grip angle at the moment
    _The Wikipedia article described the Hamilton 1901 as chambered for .25 ACP but there are two problems:

    -The .25 ACP was created in 1905 by John Moses Browning
    -The Hamilton 1901 is classified as historical handgun by Royal Decree of 1995 and described as chambered in 6.5mm Bergmann

    The Wikipedia article has been corrected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_mod._1901

    Here is an interesting picture



    I would say the way it works is closer to the MAS 38

    http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/PM%20Mle%2038.html
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    Funny how that Wikipedia article supported the theory of the original 8-month-old post until today, when it was changed just before the followup was posted here.
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    Nothing funny. The historical evidences are accurately and namely described in the article.
    What was funny was decribing a pistol as made in .25 ACP before John Moses Browning created the .25 ACP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullpupBen
    Interesting find! any more information on this gun?
    I suggest you view Famaldehide Face's other threads - his MO seems to be "post weird items and run".
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    I think this may be the first instance of slanted bolt travel. The MAS 38 and Jati-matic have it too, not including completely non-linear breech designs like the Madsen LMG.
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    You are probably right about the first case of slanted bolt travel but I would say that the way the Hamilton 1901's bolt travels produces more recoil than a classical bolt.

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